Fedora Core 3

[Brian Lloyd]

On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 17:30 -0400, Terry D. Boldt wrote:
> On Monday 04 July 2005 13:25, you wrote:
> > I would suggest "yum install gnucash" on FC3.  Works quite well
> > IMHO.
> 
> Yes. Already did that.
> 
> The only real problem with that is I still am not able to compile gnucash. I 
> have finally given up on compiling gnucash on FC3 and upcoming FC4.
> 
> Now all of that fails miserably under FC for the simple reason of gtk+ 1.2 
> dependence of gnucash and that the './configure' step will never work under 
> gnome 2.0 and gtk+2.0. I crashed the machine horribly twice and had to 
> re-install from scratch to learn the very hard way that gtk+1.2 and gtk+2.0 
> cannot reside peacefully on the same machine without some special voodoo and 
> maybe not even then.
> 
I would be interested in knowing what special voodoo I did to get gtk
+1.2 and gtk+2.0 to exist peacefully side by side.  I am running FC 4,
as I had all sorts of problems when I started to do more than just play
with the system.  Also, if you have gnucash cash installed on your FC 3
system, then you already have gtk+1.2 and gtk+2.0 running side by side.
I suspect you are having a problem with something other than gtk if you
crash your system while compiling.  I'm interested to know how you
crashed the system, because I have never had a system crash while
running FC.

> Thus, until gnucash is imported to gnome 2.0 and gtk+2.0, compiled custom 
> reports are not feasible under FC3 or FC4. At least not without some very 
> special voodoo to keep 1.2 and 2.0 versions from horribly mangling the 
> system.
> 
The above said, I can compile the baseline GNUCASH on my FC 4 system.
However, I can not (yet) get the gtk+2.0 port (which is what I was
wanting to help with) to compile.

> 
> I have somewhat solved the problem of the "compiled" custom report. 
> 
> The ability to create really original and custom reports is still not 
> available in gnuash, but, at least for me, not all that pressing any more.
> 
Right now, I feel that getting the gtk+2.0 version is the most important
thing.  After that, I like the idea of writing a "report writer" system
that would allow new reports to be created and added to the system
without compiling anything.  Has anyone else done in work on this?
The only thing that might have higher priority is the SQL backend
rewrite, but I will not help with that project unless it can get some
discipline and start using CVS.
> Thanks,
> Terry
> 
> >
> > -derek
> >
> > "Terry D. Boldt" <fastsnip-frnds1 at yahoo.com> writes:
> > > Upgraded recently to fedora Core 3. Tried to compile and install gnucash
> > > 1.8.11. After downloading and installing glib/gtk+ 1.2.10, guile and
> > > g-wrap, I still am stymied by the gnucash dependence on gnome version
> > > prior to 2.0(as used in FC3).
> > >
> > > As there a workaround for this dependence other than installing a prior
> > > version of gnome.
> > >
> > > I will be shortly upgrading to FC4 and will probably have the same
> > > problem, so if anybody knows of a workable solution, it would be very
> > > helpful.
> > >
> > > The main reason I started on this task of compiling the source was
> > > because I wanted the cusotmized reports possible following somebody's
> > > instructions as posted on guncash-developers mailing list a year or so
> > > back. That procedure requires running at least "./configure" and then
> > > 'make' in the reports source directory to rebuild the reports and of
> > > course "./configure" fails on gnome 2.0. So even if I get a ready-built
> > > version of 1.8.11 for FC4, I still cannot re-build the custom reports I
> > > had on RH8.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any information that you can provide.
> > > Terry Boldt
> > >
> > > --
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > ======================================================
> > > ******************************************************
> > > If you are always rushing towards the future,
> > > Then you never have any past.
> > >
> > > Terry Boldt
> > > ******************************************************
> > > As you contemplate the Now,
> > > The Now becomes the past.
> > >
> > > There is no future,
> > > There is no past,
> > > There is only Now.
> > >    Unknown
> > > ******************************************************
> > >
> > > "A human being is part of the whole called by us the
> > > Universe. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and
> > > feelings as something separated from the rest --a kind
> > > of optical delusion of consciousness.
> > > This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting
> > > us to our personal desires and to affection for a few
> > > persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves
> > >
> > >> From this prison by widening our circle of compassion
> > >
> > > to embrace all living creatures, and the whole of
> > > nature in its beauty."
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein.
> > >
> > > "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of
> > > thinking we used when we created them."
> > > --Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > ******************************************************
> > >
> > > We have the best government money can buy, and it has.
> > >
> > > Terry Boldt.
> > >
> > > ******************************************************
> > >
> > > You must decide:
> > >
> > > Are you a body with a soul or a soul with a body?
> > >
> > > Terry Boldt
> > >
> > > ******************************************************
> > >
> > > When you change the way you look at things,
> > > the things you look at change.
> > >
> > > ******************************************************
> > > Paraphrasing Ben Franklin:
> > >
> > > Those who sacrifice freedom for safety, have neither.
> > >
> > > The exact quote:
> > >
> > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
> > > temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
> > >  Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790),
> > >  US author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer
> > >  Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
> > >
> > > ******************************************************
> > > A thought often repeated becomes an act, an act often
> > > repeated becomes a habit, a habit often repeated,
> > > a character and a settled character molds the very
> > > destiny of man.
> > >
> > > Man is the master of his own destiny.
> > >
> > > "The Voice of Babaji", Page 236
> > > ******************************************************
> > > What man thinks, that he becomes
> > >
> > > Upanishad
> > > ******************************************************
> > > Common sense is so very extraordinary
> > > for being for so very uncommon.
> > >
> > > Terry Boldt
> > > ******************************************************
> > > To say what is real,
> > > Must be exactly what we feel,
> > > To speak of the truth,
> > > And be open this way,
> > > Is to say what you mean,
> > > And mean what you say.
> > >
> > > Pearl Boldt
> > > ******************************************************
> > > "If you don't know, you cannot teach, except by faith.
> > > And faith implies doubt. Doubt and the resulting
> > > repression of doubt breed fanaticism and intolerance.
> > > Worse, they breed ignorance pretending to infallibility,
> > > which breeds charlatans and blind followers."
> > >
> > > "Muddy Tracks", Frank DeMarco, page xxv
> > > ******************************************************
> > > "for without time,no thought of anything is possible;
> > > without space, no conception of anything is possible and
> > > without causation no consideration of anything is possible. And
> > > again, time space and causation generally appear inter-related
> > > in our consciousness not dependent of one another.
> > > So the mind lives, moves and has its existence in these
> > > three notions, which are necessarily finite, owing to
> > > their perceptional value and without which we cannot think,
> > > conceive or imagine anything. Deprived of these three,
> > > the constitution of the mind breaks down."
> > >
> > > "The Voice of Babaji", Page 442-443
> > > ******************************************************
> > > "The definition of and the mystery and meaning of faith,
> > > will open like a flower, only while sitting in silence.
> > > Faith in something greater than oneself is tantamount to
> > > a veil being withdrawn from the depths and distances
> > > glimmering within, and a feeling of eternal hunger for
> > > peace and fullness, for all that the distracted world
> > > of today denies. It is not possible to discover the Real
> > > and abide in it, except by our own experience."
> > >
> > > "The Voice of Babaji", Page 444
> > > ******************************************************
> > > ******************************************************
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > gnucash-devel at gnucash.org
> > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
> 
> -- 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ======================================================
> ******************************************************
> If you are always rushing towards the future,
> Then you never have any past.
> 
> Terry Boldt
> ******************************************************
> As you contemplate the Now,
> The Now becomes the past.
> 
> There is no future,
> There is no past,
> There is only Now.
>     Unknown
> ******************************************************
> 
> "A human being is part of the whole called by us the 
> Universe. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and 
> feelings as something separated from the rest --a kind 
> of optical delusion of consciousness.
> This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting 
> us to our personal desires and to affection for a few 
> persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves 
> from this prison by widening our circle of compassion 
> to embrace all living creatures, and the whole of 
> nature in its beauty."
> 
> Albert Einstein.
>                   
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of 
> thinking we used when we created them." 
> --Albert Einstein
> 
> ******************************************************
> 
> We have the best government money can buy, and it has.
> 
> Terry Boldt.     
> 
> ******************************************************
> 
> You must decide: 
> 
> Are you a body with a soul or a soul with a body?
> 
> Terry Boldt
> 
> ******************************************************
> 
> When you change the way you look at things, 
> the things you look at change.
> 
> ******************************************************
> Paraphrasing Ben Franklin:
> 
> Those who sacrifice freedom for safety, have neither.
> 
> The exact quote:               
> 
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
> temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
>   Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790),
>   US author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer
>   Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
> 
> ******************************************************
> A thought often repeated becomes an act, an act often
> repeated becomes a habit, a habit often repeated,
> a character and a settled character molds the very
> destiny of man.
> 
> Man is the master of his own destiny.
> 
> "The Voice of Babaji", Page 236
> ******************************************************
> What man thinks, that he becomes
> 
> Upanishad
> ******************************************************
> Common sense is so very extraordinary 
> for being for so very uncommon.
> 
> Terry Boldt
> ******************************************************
> To say what is real,
> Must be exactly what we feel,
> To speak of the truth,
> And be open this way,
> Is to say what you mean,
> And mean what you say.
> 
> Pearl Boldt
> ******************************************************
> "If you don't know, you cannot teach, except by faith.
> And faith implies doubt. Doubt and the resulting
> repression of doubt breed fanaticism and intolerance.
> Worse, they breed ignorance pretending to infallibility,
> which breeds charlatans and blind followers."
> 
> "Muddy Tracks", Frank DeMarco, page xxv
> ******************************************************
> "for without time,no thought of anything is possible;
> without space, no conception of anything is possible and
> without causation no consideration of anything is possible. And
> again, time space and causation generally appear inter-related
> in our consciousness not dependent of one another.
> So the mind lives, moves and has its existence in these
> three notions, which are necessarily finite, owing to
> their perceptional value and without which we cannot think,
> conceive or imagine anything. Deprived of these three,
> the constitution of the mind breaks down."
> 
> "The Voice of Babaji", Page 442-443
> ******************************************************
> "The definition of and the mystery and meaning of faith,
> will open like a flower, only while sitting in silence.
> Faith in something greater than oneself is tantamount to
> a veil being withdrawn from the depths and distances
> glimmering within, and a feeling of eternal hunger for
> peace and fullness, for all that the distracted world
> of today denies. It is not possible to discover the Real
> and abide in it, except by our own experience."
> 
> "The Voice of Babaji", Page 444
> ******************************************************
> ******************************************************
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