Fedora Core 3

Terry D. Boldt fastsnip-frnds1 at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 4 17:51:59 EDT 2005


On Monday 04 July 2005 13:25, you wrote:
> I would suggest "yum install gnucash" on FC3.  Works quite well
> IMHO.

Yes. Already did that.

The only real problem with that is I still am not able to compile gnucash. I 
have finally given up on compiling gnucash on FC3 and upcoming FC4.

Why compile under FC3?  I don't want to compile gnucash, but I do want custom 
reports. Some time back somebody outlined a means of developing custom 
reports for gnucash. The method necessitated customizing a standard report 
with options, etc. Exiting gnucash without deleting the report, then editing 
the report file that gnucash created. Copying the editied file to the 
appropriate gnucash source directory (after './configure' has been executed 
to set up the make files), executing 'make' and 'make install' in that 
directory alone so that the new "custom" report is compiled and installed and 
not the entire gnucash.

Now all of that fails miserably under FC for the simple reason of gtk+ 1.2 
dependence of gnucash and that the './configure' step will never work under 
gnome 2.0 and gtk+2.0. I crashed the machine horribly twice and had to 
re-install from scratch to learn the very hard way that gtk+1.2 and gtk+2.0 
cannot reside peacefully on the same machine without some special voodoo and 
maybe not even then.

Thus, until gnucash is imported to gnome 2.0 and gtk+2.0, compiled custom 
reports are not feasible under FC3 or FC4. At least not without some very 
special voodoo to keep 1.2 and 2.0 versions from horribly mangling the 
system.

Thus, in at least this way gnucash is rapidly getting left behind. I do not 
want to open a discussion on the value of importing to 2.0 (I have no doubt 
that all of the developers have been through that more than they want and 
there are very valid reasons for the way things are going and I deeply 
respect that). 

I have somewhat solved the problem of the "compiled" custom report. I have 
adopted the procedure that I have opened a standard report and modified it 
according to what I want with the various options. I then just leave the 
report active in gnucash. Thus, every time I boot gnucash, the report is 
there and updated. Also, I can update the report at any time by simply 
opening the report tab on the left, and clicking the 'refresh' icon on the 
top toolbar. This way I keep all of the "custom" reports I want "active" all 
the time under gnucash and don't need the "compiled" versions.

Once I noticed that 1.8.xx keeps reports in this manner, I no longer really 
needed to "compile" the custom reports.

The ability to create really original and custom reports is still not 
available in gnuash, but, at least for me, not all that pressing any more.

Thanks,
Terry

>
> -derek
>
> "Terry D. Boldt" <fastsnip-frnds1 at yahoo.com> writes:
> > Upgraded recently to fedora Core 3. Tried to compile and install gnucash
> > 1.8.11. After downloading and installing glib/gtk+ 1.2.10, guile and
> > g-wrap, I still am stymied by the gnucash dependence on gnome version
> > prior to 2.0(as used in FC3).
> >
> > As there a workaround for this dependence other than installing a prior
> > version of gnome.
> >
> > I will be shortly upgrading to FC4 and will probably have the same
> > problem, so if anybody knows of a workable solution, it would be very
> > helpful.
> >
> > The main reason I started on this task of compiling the source was
> > because I wanted the cusotmized reports possible following somebody's
> > instructions as posted on guncash-developers mailing list a year or so
> > back. That procedure requires running at least "./configure" and then
> > 'make' in the reports source directory to rebuild the reports and of
> > course "./configure" fails on gnome 2.0. So even if I get a ready-built
> > version of 1.8.11 for FC4, I still cannot re-build the custom reports I
> > had on RH8.
> >
> > Thanks for any information that you can provide.
> > Terry Boldt
> >
> > --
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > ======================================================
> > ******************************************************
> > If you are always rushing towards the future,
> > Then you never have any past.
> >
> > Terry Boldt
> > ******************************************************
> > As you contemplate the Now,
> > The Now becomes the past.
> >
> > There is no future,
> > There is no past,
> > There is only Now.
> >    Unknown
> > ******************************************************
> >
> > "A human being is part of the whole called by us the
> > Universe. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and
> > feelings as something separated from the rest --a kind
> > of optical delusion of consciousness.
> > This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting
> > us to our personal desires and to affection for a few
> > persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves
> >
> >> From this prison by widening our circle of compassion
> >
> > to embrace all living creatures, and the whole of
> > nature in its beauty."
> >
> > Albert Einstein.
> >
> > "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of
> > thinking we used when we created them."
> > --Albert Einstein
> >
> > ******************************************************
> >
> > We have the best government money can buy, and it has.
> >
> > Terry Boldt.
> >
> > ******************************************************
> >
> > You must decide:
> >
> > Are you a body with a soul or a soul with a body?
> >
> > Terry Boldt
> >
> > ******************************************************
> >
> > When you change the way you look at things,
> > the things you look at change.
> >
> > ******************************************************
> > Paraphrasing Ben Franklin:
> >
> > Those who sacrifice freedom for safety, have neither.
> >
> > The exact quote:
> >
> > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
> > temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
> >  Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790),
> >  US author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer
> >  Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
> >
> > ******************************************************
> > A thought often repeated becomes an act, an act often
> > repeated becomes a habit, a habit often repeated,
> > a character and a settled character molds the very
> > destiny of man.
> >
> > Man is the master of his own destiny.
> >
> > "The Voice of Babaji", Page 236
> > ******************************************************
> > What man thinks, that he becomes
> >
> > Upanishad
> > ******************************************************
> > Common sense is so very extraordinary
> > for being for so very uncommon.
> >
> > Terry Boldt
> > ******************************************************
> > To say what is real,
> > Must be exactly what we feel,
> > To speak of the truth,
> > And be open this way,
> > Is to say what you mean,
> > And mean what you say.
> >
> > Pearl Boldt
> > ******************************************************
> > "If you don't know, you cannot teach, except by faith.
> > And faith implies doubt. Doubt and the resulting
> > repression of doubt breed fanaticism and intolerance.
> > Worse, they breed ignorance pretending to infallibility,
> > which breeds charlatans and blind followers."
> >
> > "Muddy Tracks", Frank DeMarco, page xxv
> > ******************************************************
> > "for without time,no thought of anything is possible;
> > without space, no conception of anything is possible and
> > without causation no consideration of anything is possible. And
> > again, time space and causation generally appear inter-related
> > in our consciousness not dependent of one another.
> > So the mind lives, moves and has its existence in these
> > three notions, which are necessarily finite, owing to
> > their perceptional value and without which we cannot think,
> > conceive or imagine anything. Deprived of these three,
> > the constitution of the mind breaks down."
> >
> > "The Voice of Babaji", Page 442-443
> > ******************************************************
> > "The definition of and the mystery and meaning of faith,
> > will open like a flower, only while sitting in silence.
> > Faith in something greater than oneself is tantamount to
> > a veil being withdrawn from the depths and distances
> > glimmering within, and a feeling of eternal hunger for
> > peace and fullness, for all that the distracted world
> > of today denies. It is not possible to discover the Real
> > and abide in it, except by our own experience."
> >
> > "The Voice of Babaji", Page 444
> > ******************************************************
> > ******************************************************
> >
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-- 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
======================================================
******************************************************
If you are always rushing towards the future,
Then you never have any past.

Terry Boldt
******************************************************
As you contemplate the Now,
The Now becomes the past.

There is no future,
There is no past,
There is only Now.
    Unknown
******************************************************

"A human being is part of the whole called by us the 
Universe. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and 
feelings as something separated from the rest --a kind 
of optical delusion of consciousness.
This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting 
us to our personal desires and to affection for a few 
persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves 
from this prison by widening our circle of compassion 
to embrace all living creatures, and the whole of 
nature in its beauty."

Albert Einstein.
                  
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of 
thinking we used when we created them." 
--Albert Einstein

******************************************************

We have the best government money can buy, and it has.

Terry Boldt.     

******************************************************

You must decide: 

Are you a body with a soul or a soul with a body?

Terry Boldt

******************************************************

When you change the way you look at things, 
the things you look at change.

******************************************************
Paraphrasing Ben Franklin:

Those who sacrifice freedom for safety, have neither.

The exact quote:               

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
  Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790),
  US author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer
  Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

******************************************************
A thought often repeated becomes an act, an act often
repeated becomes a habit, a habit often repeated,
a character and a settled character molds the very
destiny of man.

Man is the master of his own destiny.

"The Voice of Babaji", Page 236
******************************************************
What man thinks, that he becomes

Upanishad
******************************************************
Common sense is so very extraordinary 
for being for so very uncommon.

Terry Boldt
******************************************************
To say what is real,
Must be exactly what we feel,
To speak of the truth,
And be open this way,
Is to say what you mean,
And mean what you say.

Pearl Boldt
******************************************************
"If you don't know, you cannot teach, except by faith.
And faith implies doubt. Doubt and the resulting
repression of doubt breed fanaticism and intolerance.
Worse, they breed ignorance pretending to infallibility,
which breeds charlatans and blind followers."

"Muddy Tracks", Frank DeMarco, page xxv
******************************************************
"for without time,no thought of anything is possible;
without space, no conception of anything is possible and
without causation no consideration of anything is possible. And
again, time space and causation generally appear inter-related
in our consciousness not dependent of one another.
So the mind lives, moves and has its existence in these
three notions, which are necessarily finite, owing to
their perceptional value and without which we cannot think,
conceive or imagine anything. Deprived of these three,
the constitution of the mind breaks down."

"The Voice of Babaji", Page 442-443
******************************************************
"The definition of and the mystery and meaning of faith,
will open like a flower, only while sitting in silence.
Faith in something greater than oneself is tantamount to
a veil being withdrawn from the depths and distances
glimmering within, and a feeling of eternal hunger for
peace and fullness, for all that the distracted world
of today denies. It is not possible to discover the Real
and abide in it, except by our own experience."

"The Voice of Babaji", Page 444
******************************************************
******************************************************


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