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If anyone is interested, I found the news post that announced the removal of 32-bit package from MSYS2 about a year ago:</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 7, 2024 9:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> GnuCash Development <gnucash-devel@gnucash.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: GnuCash Windows Build Help</font>
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Exploring the MINGW-packages repo, I can see that 9 months ago a ton of packages were updated to remove 32-bit environments as targets.</div>
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libmariadbclient, postgresql, and xmlsec were all part of these updates.</div>
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I assume there was a good reason for this, but how will it affect 32-bit GnuCash Windows builds moving forward?</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 7, 2024 8:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> GnuCash Development <gnucash-devel@gnucash.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: GnuCash Windows Build Help</font>
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<pre><pre><pre><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; white-space:pre-wrap; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Does anyone know how to obtain these packages for 32-bit (mingw32)?</div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; white-space:normal; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; white-space:normal; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">As far as I can tell, only their 64-bit (mingw64) counterparts are available on packages.msys2.org.</div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; white-space:normal; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">But they must have been available for 32-bit at some point in time, right?</div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; white-space:normal; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; white-space:normal; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">I'm not familiar enough with the MSYS2 package system to understand why they are no longer available.</div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; white-space:normal; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; white-space:pre-wrap; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">mingw-w64-i686-libmariadbclient-3.1.13-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
mingw-w64-i686-postgresql-16.1-1-any.pkg.tar.zst</div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; white-space:pre-wrap; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">mingw-w64-i686-xmlsec-1.2.39-1-any.pkg.tar.zst</div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; white-space:normal; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; white-space:pre-wrap; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thanks,</div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; white-space:pre-wrap; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Kevin</div></pre></pre></pre>
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<div id="x_x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Robert Fewell <14ubobit@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 7, 2024 3:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin Sanders <kbsanders@hotmail.com><br>
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<div>You may find my earlier post of use in building on windows, hopefully I will get round to creating a PR to update procedure, see link below...</div>
<div><a href="https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/2024-September/046961.html" data-auth="NotApplicable">https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/2024-September/046961.html</a></div>
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Thanks John, I have joined the mailing list as suggested.</div>
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I installed the recommended distutils extra package and it completed successfully but the error remains.</div>
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Do you know what controls the version of python MinGW32 is using? Latest stable or something like that?</div>
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The word "python" appears only once in the PowerShell setup script and is sans version.</div>
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Perhaps this could be a PATH or environment issue where installed modules cannot be resolved?</div>
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Kevin@Kevin-PC MINGW32 /c/gcdev64/src/gnucash-on-windows.git</div>
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$ pacman -S mingw-w64-i686-python-distutils-extra</div>
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resolving dependencies...</div>
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Packages (1) mingw-w64-i686-python-distutils-extra-2.39-4</div>
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Total Download Size: 0.04 MiB</div>
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mingw-w64-i686-python-dist... 36.5 KiB 39.1 KiB/s 00:01 [###############################] 100%</div>
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(1/1) checking keys in keyring [###############################] 100%</div>
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Kevin@Kevin-PC MINGW32 /c/gcdev64/src/gnucash-on-windows.git</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 7, 2024 12:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin Sanders <<a href="mailto:kbsanders@hotmail.com">kbsanders@hotmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> GnuCash Development <<a href="mailto:gnucash-devel@gnucash.org">gnucash-devel@gnucash.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: GnuCash Windows Build Help</span>
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<div>Kevin,</div>
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<div>Welcome to GnuCash. Please don’t contact the developers directly; always use one of the mailing lists (<a href="https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists" data-auth="NotApplicable" id="x_x_x_m_4686466615736768673OWAf8a75fec-4af6-8e1d-eecf-86775108bc00">https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists</a>).
You can pick whether user or devel is appropriate for a particular conversation, the developers monitor both. For this conversation I’ve picked devel and cc’d it for your convenience. You’ll need to subscribe to it to reply.</div>
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<div>That sounds like a Mingw64 problem, as Python officially didn’t remove distutils until 3.12. OTOH distutils has been deprecated for years and the jhbuild maintainers have been ignoring the problem. They still are:
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https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/jhbuild/-/issues/291</a>. Anyway, it looks like Mingw64 has provided a workaround called ming-w64-python-distutils-extra (<a href="https://github.com/msys2/MINGW-packages/tree/master/mingw-w64-python-distutils-extra" data-auth="NotApplicable" id="x_x_x_m_4686466615736768673OWAa3bf7eef-561c-28d8-1458-f8ee627c247a">https://github.com/msys2/MINGW-packages/tree/master/mingw-w64-python-distutils-extra</a>).
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Hi John, my name is Kevin Sanders.</div>
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I'm a new user of GnuCash and I'm trying to get setup to do some development work with GnuCash on Windows.</div>
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I'm sorry to bother you but I've run into an issue that I'm not sure how to resolve.</div>
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I have ran the setup-mingw.ps1 PowerShell script.</div>
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I have launched a MSYS2 MingGW 32-bit terminal window and cd into the repository directory.</div>
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I run jhbuild and it fails with ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'distutils'.</div>
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I believe this to be a python issue, but I'm not really sure.</div>
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Python version is showing as 3.11.10.</div>
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Any help would be greatly appreciated.</div>
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-Kevin</div>
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Console Output:</div>
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Kevin@Kevin-PC MINGW32 /c/gcdev64/src/gnucash-on-windows.git</div>
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$ TARGET=gnucash-stable jhbuild -f jhbuildrc build</div>
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Traceback (most recent call last):</div>
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File "/usr/bin/jhbuild", line 22, in <module></div>
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import jhbuild.main</div>
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File "/c/gcdev64/src/jhbuild.git/jhbuild/main.py", line 26, in <module></div>
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import jhbuild.config</div>
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File "/c/gcdev64/src/jhbuild.git/jhbuild/config.py", line 31, in <module></div>
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from jhbuild.environment import setup_env, setup_env_defaults, addpath</div>
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File "/c/gcdev64/src/jhbuild.git/jhbuild/environment.py", line 24, in <module></div>
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from distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib</div>
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ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'distutils'</div>
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Kevin@Kevin-PC MINGW32 /c/gcdev64/src/gnucash-on-windows.git</div>
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$ python --version</div>
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Python 3.11.10</div>
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