Vanishing transactions and log file
warlord at MIT.EDU
Thu Apr 3 12:09:38 EDT 2008
Ross Boylan <RossBoylan at stanfordalumni.org> writes:
>> I'm not sure what you mean by "the contents of the transaction and
>> split comments seem to get copied between each other (in the
>> display)". Could you expand on that, explain what you mean,
>> and maybe supply some screen shots?
> The attached gnc1 shows a register in auto-split mode; all shots are of
> the active transaction.
> gnc1: no comments entered, but splits present
> gnc2: enter a comment on the split
> gnc3: tab to next split (simply tabbing to another field on the same
> line does not produce a change). The split comment now appears in the
> header's 2nd line; I think that's supposed to be the transaction notes.
> gnc4: I've clicked on the 2nd line of the header, in the note field, and
> typed a new transaction note. Focus is still in the note field.
> gnc5: I've tabbed out of the transaction note. The note has been copied
> to the split memo.
Without seeing the register header line too I'm having a hard time
deciphering this. For one thing, what's the question-mark doing
in the second column? It looks like you're in an A/R or A/P account!
Second, I cannot reproduce this here. I tried following your suggestion
but it's not working.
> Of course, if the transaction has 2 splits in the register's account,
> there's an extra layer (I think it's either the first or last of the
> splits that's linked to the transaction notes.).
What do you mean by "extra layer"? Again, I cannot reproduce that
> By the way, can any of these notes be multi-line?
No, you cannot include an embedded newline.
>> > The problem with that is that it makes the typical case, a transaction
>> > involving exactly 2 splits, awkward.
>> There really needs to be another "special-basic" mode that shows a
>> basic 2-split transaction in basic mode but shows any multi- (>=3)
>> split transaction in expanded mode. It would be half-way between
>> basic mode and journal mode, but not quite the auto-split mode.
>> This new mode would certainly make it more clear....
> That sounds a lot like a solution I was thinking of: in the basic or
> non-focal auto-split mode, if there are multiple splits in the register
> account display them on separate lines in a way that groups them
> together visually, e.g., leaves the date column blank is it is in the
> auto-split pictures attached. I guess the comment (transaction note)
> would still need to go on a separate line.
The transaction note is ONLY visible in "double line mode". It's
always been like that, and it will always remain like that.
> One of the issues with any split-oriented mode is that there are many
> editing operations on a split that are really questionable, like
> deleting it or changing the amount. This suggests disallowing such
> operations; again the "standard case" of 2 exactly balanced splits pulls
> in the other direction (i.e., permit editing amount or deleting the
> split, understood to mean the whole transaction).
Yep. Which is why we DO make the "standard case" special. But it
adds complexity as a result, but it's complexity that really does
make sense to add.
So, when should we expect patches from you for this new register mode?
Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory
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