Newbie Split Transaction Problem
Paul Warthe
warthes7 at gmail.com
Sun Dec 14 18:39:56 EST 2014
Hi guys,
I've attached 3 screen shots to help illustrate. Pretab.jpg shows the screen just before I hit tab on the medicare entry of $90. (I have already tried entering the federal tax amount of $180 in the deposit column but it was changed to a $490 entry in the Withdrawal column when I tabbed out of the cell.) The posttab.jpg shot shows the screen after I have entered tab twice. The medicare entry is changed to a $90 Withdrawal. The afterenter.jpg is what the entire entry looks like after entering all information and clicking on the Enter button.
I have not entered a negative number. I built a brand new chart of accounts following the tutorial. Could there be a problem in my chart of accounts?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: gnucash-user [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+warthes7=gmail.com at gnucash.org] On Behalf Of David Carlson
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 4:34 PM
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Newbie Split Transaction Problem
On 12/13/2014 8:46 PM, Robin Chattopadhyay wrote:
> When you say that GnuCash is moving your values, are you possibly
> entering the values in as negative number? If you enter, for example,
> a credit as a negative number, Gnucash will represent the value as a positive debit.
>
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Paul Warthe <warthes7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for your reply John. I realized that I did not explain
>> everything enough. I am following the example in the tutorial,
>> entering the same values in the same cells. GnuCash moves them over
>> to the cells I show in my results. It also recalculates and enters
>> the values you see. Jcard21, this may be the things that don't seem
>> right to you. I wasn’t aware screen shots could be posted to this list. I will see what I can do about posting one.
>>
>> I appreciate your help guys.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Ralls [mailto:jralls at ceridwen.us]
>> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 5:10 PM
>> To: Paul Warthe
>> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>> Subject: Re: Newbie Split Transaction Problem
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Paul Warthe <warthes7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm a newbie trying to work through the examples in the Help:
>>> Tutorial and Concepts Guide. I'm using version 2.6.3 built from git
>>> rev
>>> 166cbb7+ on 2014-04-01.
>>>
>>> My current problem is with split transactions. The program is not
>>> working the way it is described in the guide. Under the chapter
>>> "Transactions" "The Account Register" there is the example of
>>> entering a paycheck as a split transaction. Figure 4.1 shows: (my
>>> apologies in advance if the following doesn't line up in columns as
>>> does in the
>>> program.)
>>>
>>> Description Tot Deposit Tot Withdrawal
>>> Balance
>>> Employers R Us 670.00
>>> 1,624.79
>>> After Tax Assets: Checking 670.00
>>> Federal Tx Expenses:Taxes:Federal 180.00
>>> Medicare Expenses:Taxes:Medicare 90.00
>>> Social Security Expenses:Taxes:Social 60.00
>>> Before Tax Income:Salary 1,000.00
>>>
>>>
>>> When I attempt to enter this information, being careful not to use
>>> the "Enter" key, I end up with:
>>>
>>> Description Tot Deposit Tot Withdrawal
>>> Balance
>>> Employers R Us 670.00
>>> 1,624.79
>>> After Tax Assets: Checking 670.00
>>> Imbalance 940.00
>>> Federal Tx Expenses:Taxes:Federal 490.00
>>> Medicare Expenses:Taxes:Medicare 90.00
>>> Social Security Expenses:Taxes:Social 30.00
>>> Before Tax Income:Salary 1,000.00
>>>
>>> Also, when I am entering my data, I see small, greyed out boxes with
>>> an
>> "X"
>>> in them appear in the upper left corner of the cells. They disappear
>>> when I enter the transaction.
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest what I may be doing wrong?
>> You’re putting the expenses in the wrong column.
>>
>> The little grey boxes are warning you that the transaction is out of
>> balance; when you save it GnuCash creates the imbalance split to
>> automatically balance it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>>
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There is a possibility that you are entering a number in the left column but not explicitly clearing out the number that GnuCash automatically put in the right column or vice-versa. Also note that GnuCash will re-order the rows to put all the left column amounts and all the right column amounts together when you finally do use the enter key. When GnuCash creates an Imbalance entry you can eliminate it by adding the missing account and amount then deleting each field in the Imbalance row then tab out to the end.
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