2008-06-16 GnuCash IRC logs
00:09:46 <warlord> okay, bedtime. good night
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07:29:06 <kling0n> a quick question: i am trying to get gnucash to print an invoice in danish but the "amount due" and "tax" fields come up in english... where should i go looking to edit this?
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08:09:14 <warlord> kling0n: what version of gnucash? You should be looking in the appropriate invoice.scm
08:09:59 <kling0n> 2.2.4
08:10:38 <warlord> and which invoice?
08:10:51 <kling0n> easy
08:11:08 <warlord> Oh, I know nothing about that -- that was donated.
08:11:28 <kling0n> i was just wondering... since i have named teh different kinds of taxes anyways it would make sense to have the name of the relevant tax table available as a naming option
08:11:48 <kling0n> warlord: it wouldn't be a big issue for me to switch :)
08:12:02 <kling0n> i'm just looking for a decent solution to my problem
08:12:15 <warlord> Are you sure that the translation exists in the po-file?
08:12:58 <warlord> because in MY copy of the report (granted, not 2.2.4), "Tax" and "Amount Due" are marked translated. But if there's no translation of those words then you'd still get English.
08:14:26 <kling0n> i'm not entirely sure where to find the relevant po file... it's pretty close to a vanilla version with just a custom stylesheet
08:20:40 <warlord> in the source tree it would be in po/<your translation>.po
08:20:53 <warlord> But we might not distribute the po files; we might only distribute the gmo files.
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15:38:18 <illimitable> hello--- I would like to know about invoicing.
15:38:38 <illimitable> I have a list of transactions that I would like to put into an invoice.
15:38:41 <illimitable> How do I do that?
15:39:03 <warlord> Enter those line-items into the invoice.
15:39:09 <illimitable> I paid for goods out of an asset account, and now expect to be reimbursed.
15:39:19 <illimitable> To be reimbursed, however, I must bill.
15:39:24 <illimitable> How do I do this?
15:39:48 <warlord> Chargeback
15:40:29 <illimitable> Warlord: if I've already entered them into one account ledger (checking), how do I avoid entering them again?
15:40:54 <jsled> illimitable: using the invoicing features in gnucash requires using them from the get-go.
15:41:18 <jsled> (unless warlord contradicts me. :)
15:41:48 <warlord> illimitable: jsled is correct. if you've already entered them into the checking register then you've already lost.
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15:47:03 <illimitable> jsled/warlord: ack. that's too bad. I use ofx/qif to import many of the transactions. do you mean that there is no way to assign money coming out of a checking account to an invoice?
15:47:20 <warlord> That is correct.
15:47:40 <warlord> Invoicing/Billing is standalone. It can insert INTO the CoA, but cannot read from it.
15:47:53 <illimitable> CoA?
15:48:24 <warlord> Chart of Accounts.
15:49:23 <illimitable> How should I have done this from the start?
15:49:50 <illimitable> Imagine me buying something for a client (I'm a personal assistant) using my checking account.
15:50:13 <illimitable> How should I do this so that the balance of my checking account is accurate, and I can create a bill?
15:51:18 <illimitable> Alternatively, how can I just print a list of accounts that I used the find function to locate?
15:52:10 <illimitable> ???
15:54:17 <warlord> Is this for your personal accounts? Or for a business?
15:55:11 <warlord> You have a few choices.. You could pay for it the way you are and then just create an invoice from Income:Reimbursible Expenses.
15:55:36 <illimitable> I haven't kept things separate. Actually, in this case, I'm helping family who are ill, and need errands run.
15:55:39 <warlord> Another option is to use an Assets:Business Expenses
15:55:54 <illimitable> What I've done is I
15:55:58 <warlord> Are you just trying to keep track?
15:56:05 <warlord> Or do you actually want to create printed Invoices?
15:56:30 <illimitable> Warlord: no, I need to create an itemized list of what my family owes me so they don't feel like they're getting ripped off.
15:57:07 <illimitable> It would be the same with any sort of business, though, like when I used to work for the feds.
15:57:10 <warlord> Does it need to be in the form of an invoice? Or just a list of transactions?
15:57:19 <illimitable> List of transactions would be fine.
15:57:56 <warlord> Then just use an Asset account for reimbursibles. Then you can print out an Account Register Report to list all of the expenses.
15:58:31 <illimitable> Right now, all of the charges to my checking/savings/credit card accounts have accrued to an accounts receivable account crafted for these family members.
15:58:44 <illimitable> where's account register report? report--?
15:58:59 <warlord> From the register page, look under Reports ->
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16:00:28 <mrfoo> hi all - I am trying to figure out why the version of gnucash2 i got from fink (osx) won't output the text when I save a printed invoice as a pdf - i get the table cell outlines, but no text - not in teh header, not in the cells, none... any suggestions on anything I could try? I need to send out some invoices :)
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16:06:04 <warlord> mrfoo: you should ask dbreiser
16:16:51 <illimitable> printing from account register report yields text that is a mirror image and upside down! odd!
16:18:55 <warlord> Oh, that problem. *sigh* Print to PDF.
16:19:44 <mrfoo> print to ps also ends up with 'empty' boxen
16:20:12 <mrfoo> it's like it's using a dud font or white on white or some such :)
16:23:14 <warlord> it's an issue on some windows boxes; the print libs we use interact poorly with some printer drivers.
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16:45:33 <mrfoo> this is on osx
16:45:36 <mrfoo> under x11
16:47:35 <warlord> OSX!?! Never heard that problem on OFX!
16:47:44 <warlord> er OSX
16:47:52 <warlord> I've only heard of it on Windows.
16:48:16 <mrfoo> :(
16:59:24 <warlord> but yes... soungs like a font problem.
16:59:32 <warlord> fink or macports?
17:00:02 <mrfoo> finik
17:00:03 <mrfoo> fink
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17:02:41 <warlord> Then you should talk with dbresier
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17:54:09 <illimitable> yup. backwards and upside down for the win!
17:54:14 <illimitable> fix for great justice!
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19:03:54 <fell> Hi, Rol1 is which Rolf?
19:04:09 <Rol1> yes, it's me
19:04:17 <Rol1> The one you expect
19:05:00 <fell> It was a long time age
19:05:55 <Rol1> yes
19:06:12 <Rol1> I think gnucash is not ready for serious use in Germany
19:06:25 <Rol1> And after all I needed to get my taxes done and stuff
19:06:32 <Rol1> So, I dropped the ball
19:06:38 <Rol1> I recently picked it up again
19:06:44 <Rol1> on a smaller scale
19:07:08 <Rol1> but I hope that I can make another push so that eventually gnucash will be possible to use for German business
19:07:41 <Rol1> I think I'll need to look further into reports which of course is not the easiest thing
19:07:45 * Rol1 curses scheme
19:09:37 <fell> In the early 80s, before the PC was introduced, nearly erverybody used EMACS and wrote his own ectensions in LISP.
19:09:48 <fell> It was a funny time.
19:11:57 <fell> You shouldn't think procedural, like in C or BASIC. Think more declarative and functional.
19:12:31 <fell> to use scheme/lisp
19:12:31 <Rol1> I don't think I should be thinking like a programmer at all
19:12:45 <Rol1> I used emacs myself
19:12:55 <Rol1> I wrote a few simple things in LISP
19:13:11 <Rol1> But it is horrible to have to write a simple report in scheme
19:13:24 <Rol1> and gnucash does not provide much help with this
19:13:35 <Rol1> or should I say any useful help at all?
19:14:27 <fell> I think, the documentation is realy not the best.
19:15:19 <fell> So I spent most of my spare time to enhance http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/GnuCash
19:17:21 <fell> Starting to try to contribute to gnucash is like the famous adventure game, which is also in emacs.
19:18:31 <fell> you are in a maze of little twisty passages, all different. But sometimes you find a nice and powerful tool, left from prevous adventerers.
19:24:44 <fell> To make it more easy for new people, an overview, e.g. what svn.gnucash.org offers would be helpful.
19:28:53 <Rol1> good night
19:29:52 <fell> good night, Rol1,
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