2013-12-30 GnuCash IRC logs

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09:42:12 <john> warlord, gjanssens, the 2.4.14 win32 build failed because csail changed the slib version on us. I've fixed that and retagged. Can the first of you to notice please start a new build?
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09:46:43 * gjanssens is logging into the build server...
09:50:08 <gjanssens> The 2.4.14 build is restarted
09:57:38 <aqua_> hi
09:57:38 <gncbot> aqua_: Sent 1 year, 3 weeks, 2 days, 18 hours, and 26 minutes ago: <pablo> I'm looking for you. I should be on this channel most of the day.
09:58:08 <aqua_> congrats for the 2.6.-release
09:58:34 <aqua_> does anybody know when it will be included in the ubuntu-reps
09:58:35 <aqua_> ?
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10:11:20 <jmd> aqua_: It isn't released yet is it?
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10:23:55 <john> I just sent the release announcement, and everything is pushing to the website now. That includes all of the docs, so it may be a little while before it shows up.
10:24:16 <john> 2.4.14 is having issues and won't release until later today at the earliest.
10:25:32 <jmd> How about updating the /topic ?
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11:29:52 *** gjanssens changes topic to "Free GPL Personal and Small Business Accounting || Please don't ask to ask, just ask and wait! || publically-logged channel || latest stable: 2.6.0 || www.gnucash.org"
11:30:00 <gjanssens> jmd: done :)
11:31:21 <gjanssens> fyi the 2.4.14 build on windows is currently at libgmp. Still a while to go...
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12:11:24 <jmd> gjanssens: Does it have the same dependency on webkit ? I've not managed ever to build that :(
12:18:41 <gjanssens> jmd: yes it does...
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12:30:12 <jmd> That's a pity.
12:53:52 <gjanssens> On Windows we are still using the same webkit package that was used in the 2.4 series
12:54:17 <gjanssens> This package has been created via cross-compilation as noone so far managed to do a native build
12:54:38 <gjanssens> And noone tried to build an updated package either...
12:55:18 <jmd> I haven't managed to successfully build any webkit version. Neither native nor cross.
13:00:08 <gjanssens> I never tried myself. It was Phil Longstaf that went through the trouble.
13:00:16 <gjanssens> Anyway, I have to leave for today.
13:00:45 <gjanssens> Quick status update on the 2.4.14 build: it's now in the middle of the guile step
13:01:09 <gjanssens> See you all later
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15:31:42 <TinoDidriksen> Any way to attach an image to one or more transactions?
15:32:57 <warlord> TinoDidriksen: in 2.6 you'll be able to add a URL reference to a transaction.
15:33:11 <warlord> But you'll need to store the image yourself; it's not part of the data file.
15:40:44 <jmd> Am I right that 2.6 does SEPA transactions?
15:42:16 <TinoDidriksen> Hm, a URL is probably enough. I was considering implementing my own accounting software, and figured I'd check if my desired feature list was covered by GNUCash first...
15:42:41 <warlord> jmd: I believe so, but I'm not in Europe so haven't really paid attention to that.
15:43:04 <warlord> TinoDidriksen: if not, you're welcome to extend GnuCash to add your missing features. Patches always welcome.
15:43:36 <john> jmd: There are a couple of open bugs on SEPA: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711363 and https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720898
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16:21:06 <wiggin> hey - how should i tell gnucash to use a sqlite db instead of XML?
16:21:11 <wiggin> i have it compiled with sqlite
16:29:49 <john> File>Save As, then pick SQLite3 from the list box at the top of the dialog.
16:32:09 <wiggin> ahh thanks a lot
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16:57:50 <warlord> got a vm installed.. now need to spend time configuring and then migrating.. :-/
17:05:44 <TinoDidriksen> When importing from CSV, I choose Deposit for a column but that results in positive values being put in the Charge column ... shouldn't a positive Deposit be Income?
17:06:41 <warlord> TinoDidriksen: what account did you choose for the CSV import?
17:06:55 <TinoDidriksen> An Income type account.
17:07:07 <warlord> That's wrong.. You should be importing Assets or Liabilities...
17:07:26 <warlord> Each *line* gets associated with an Income or Expense account.
17:07:34 <warlord> (the other side of the double-entry equation)
17:11:33 <TinoDidriksen> Hm, well, that complicates things...but I guess it's a one-time import.
17:12:03 <warlord> If it's a one-time import why not use QIF?
17:12:17 <warlord> What's your data source?
17:12:24 <TinoDidriksen> 'cause I only have CSV. It's export from netbank.
17:12:27 <warlord> (Or better yet, just start cold turkey on Jan 1st)
17:12:40 <warlord> netbank? They haven't existed for years.
17:13:13 <TinoDidriksen> Online banking in general is called "net banking" here. Actual bank is Nordea Denmark.
17:13:50 <TinoDidriksen> Oh, there's a Bank account type...
17:14:12 <warlord> Yes, there is.
17:14:25 <warlord> (that's one of the Asset types)
17:28:58 <TinoDidriksen> Program doesn't support split dates? Actual date of event vs. accounting/interest date.
17:34:05 <warlord> No.
17:34:16 <warlord> It doesn't auto-compute interest, so the latter isn't important.
17:34:30 <warlord> Enter the date you initiate the txn. E.g. the date you write a check
17:35:14 <TinoDidriksen> And the CSV importer doesn't use the line number as ordering information, so I'll just script up some transformation to get the info I want in the description field and add a number column.
17:37:41 <warlord> Ordering is done by date, Num, then date entered..
17:37:52 <warlord> So theoretically it should put them into "order"
17:38:03 <warlord> ... except the date entered might be the same ...
17:40:56 <TinoDidriksen> Exactly, so I had some negative balances because the date was the same, but the transactions definitely did not cause negatives.
17:41:19 <TinoDidriksen> Trivial enough to fix with a one-liner...
17:43:45 <warlord> gotta run. biab
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17:58:28 <keyvan> hi thank you for this software
17:59:05 <TinoDidriksen> Hm, and CSV import limits to 100 rows by default, and one can't type in the text field...clicking up 600 times is not going to happen.
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18:31:41 <warlord> TinoDidriksen: seriously, you're better off using QIF import for this.. Or ignoring import and just start from scratch on Jan 1st.
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22:28:32 <john> warlord, gjanssens: First one to see this, please start another 2.4.14 build. I fixed what I think was the problem with the last one, though I'm puzzled because it's in trunk instead of the 2.4 branch.