2014-10-03 GnuCash IRC logs

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04:01:49 <Unhammer> any norwegians here who know what "uttak" means in "omsetning eller uttak overstiger 50 000 kroner" ?
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04:29:28 <kimmo2> uttak is withdrawing
04:29:41 <kimmo2> ut tak, out take
04:33:37 <Unhammer> so is that purchases and such?
04:33:50 <Unhammer> "withdrawing" sounds so vague :/
04:39:33 <kimmo2> omsetning is deposits
04:39:44 <kimmo2> or sales
04:40:03 <kimmo2> so "sales or purchases exceed 50k nok" would be about right
04:42:44 <Unhammer> ah, so sales minus purchases =50
04:44:02 <Unhammer> would've they could just say "profits", but these accounting words always have such particular meanings :(
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07:48:18 <lmat> @op
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12:08:21 <Paul> I’m experiencing difficulty in reconciling my checking account using GnuCash 2.6.2 on OS X Mavericks. Everything works as in older versions except statement transaction (<STMTTRAN>) fields that contain the <CHECKNUM> (e.g. <CHECKNUM>6092) replace Date field in GnuCash with the <DTPOSTED> field in the OFX transactions file and also replace the Description field in GnuCash with the <NAME> field in the OFX transactions file. W
12:08:21 <Paul> importing the transaction file into GnuCash, all these transaction are colored green. I’m probably doing something wrong, but I’d like to know of a way to keep the originally entered date and description unchanged when reconciling these numbered checks. Can you give me some guidance? Thanks.
12:15:26 <warlord> Paul: dont use the importer to do that, then. The importer (AFAIK) will always overwrite existing data.
12:15:44 <warlord> (also your first line ended at "transactions file. W"
12:19:00 <Paul> Sorry about the missing text here’s the rest.
12:19:06 <Paul> When importing the transaction file into GnuCash, all these transaction are colored green. I’m probably doing something wrong, but I’d like to know of a way to keep the originally entered date and description unchanged when reconciling these numbered checks. Can you give me some guidance? Thanks.
12:20:30 <Paul> None of the other transactions have their dates or descriptions overwritten.
12:41:53 <warlord> Sorry, I honestly don't know -- I don't use the importers.
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12:57:27 <Paul> Thanks for the response. I think I’ll try editing out the <CHECKNUM> field from the OFX file and experiment with what happens. Meanwhile, it would be good to have the developers of the importer/reconcile portion of the program understand the issue. Thanks again. Paul
12:58:06 <warlord> Paul: would be nice, but the OFX importer developer hasn't been around in a while.
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13:35:33 <lmat> How do I make gnucash sell my house for me?
13:36:05 <kimmo2> takes a few actuators, some silicon, and a shitload of modifications
13:37:56 <lmat> kimmo2: :)
13:38:09 <kimmo2> that's the only way
13:38:31 <kimmo2> like, build a terminator infiltrator unit, and use the gnucash source as the starting point
14:00:41 <lmat> Is there any desire to give gnucash a document structure? So, rather than editing ledgers, the user would be entering receipts as such, and making deposits as such?
14:08:11 <warlord> lmat: no
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14:28:04 <lmat> warlord: good :)
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16:12:32 <lmat> When I build gnucash, the build process always uses
16:12:47 <lmat> the .so s from the build directory rather than the source tree.
16:12:56 <lmat> How do I prevent this (without make uninstall;ing)?
16:13:40 <warlord> lmat: make uninstall
16:13:48 <lmat> :( okay
16:13:54 <warlord> or move the install dir out of the way
16:14:20 <warlord> You ARE using a --prefix like /opt/gnucash, right?
16:16:23 <jralls> lmat: Don't you mean the distro-installed lib in /usr, not the "build" dir, which would be the location for an out-of-source build?
16:16:53 <lmat> warlord: I'm using --prefix, yes. Oh, you're saying I could use a different --prefix where the wrong .so s aren't there...
16:17:19 <lmat> jralls: The directory wasn't decided by the distro, and it's not in /usr, but it is the out-of-source build location.
16:17:40 <lmat> jralls: Oh, and the libs I'm talking about are gnucash shared objects.
16:17:56 <warlord> lmat: what --prefix are you using?
16:18:14 <lmat> warlord: --prefix /home/lmat/sources/builds
16:18:48 <jralls> If you're doing out-of-source builds in the build dir, then those are the libs you want. There shouldn't be any in the src dir.
16:18:58 <lmat> hmm
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16:19:34 <lmat> jralls: After I make uninstall;, they're all removed from my prefix. Then, when I make; and make check;, the libs used for linking are those in the build directory (/home/lmat/sources/gnucash)
16:19:35 <jralls> You don't want to point the prefix at the build dir.
16:20:02 <jralls> Where are the sources?
16:20:11 <lmat> jralls: /home/lmat/sources/gnucash
16:20:24 <lmat> jralls: So, there's /home/lmat/sources/gnucash/.git, and /home/lmat/sources/gnucash/src/libqof, etc.
16:20:26 <warlord> lmat: what's the srcdir, builddir, and prefix?
16:20:26 <jralls> OK, then you're doing in-src builds
16:20:58 <kimmo2> SX-book.c: In function 'sxtg_book_begin':
16:20:58 <kimmo2> SX-book.c:121:5: error: implicit declaration of function 'qof_instance_set_dirty' [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
16:21:00 <kimmo2> :(
16:21:13 <lmat> warlord: If you're using technical terms, I only know the prefix (/home/lmat/sources/builds).
16:21:32 <jralls> warlord: He just said. srcdir=bulddir=/home/lmat/sources/gnucash and prefix=/home/lmat/sources/builds.
16:21:38 <lmat> warlord: Intuitively, I would say the srcdir is /home/lmat/sources/gnucash/src, and I don't know about builddir ^_^
16:21:55 <warlord> lmat: in what directory did you run "make"?
16:21:58 <lmat> kimmo2: What commit are you compiling?
16:22:04 <lmat> warlord: /home/lmat/sources/gnucash;
16:22:24 <jralls> kimmo2: Do a git pull. I fixed that yesterday.
16:23:07 <jralls> So that's in-source build. Yes, you need to make uninstall.
16:23:50 <kimmo2> ok thanks
16:24:22 <lmat> jralls: :( Thanks!
16:24:35 <kimmo2> error: The requested URL returned error: 403 Forbidden while accessing https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash.git/info/refs
16:24:38 <kimmo2> eh? :o
16:24:48 <lmat> ouch
16:24:59 <kimmo2> never saw that one before
16:25:02 <lmat> I was able to fetch just now.
16:25:22 <warlord> kimmo2: try again?
16:26:07 <warlord> lmat: okay, so you are doing an in-src build. HOWEVER, autotools might be a little too smart in that it notices that your --prefix is along-side the src-/build-dir..
16:26:21 <warlord> try putting your --prefix in a different path.
16:26:31 <kimmo2> derek, weird, I usually don't retry with computers expectign a different result... ;)
16:26:38 <lmat> warlord: interesting, I can give that a go...
16:26:56 <kimmo2> hmm, does gnucash trunk == master always?
16:27:07 <jralls> kimmo2: When the net is involved it's not unusual for retries to work.
16:27:58 <kimmo2> when I see a 4xx, I usually don't retry...
16:28:04 <jralls> kimmo2: Trunk is only a convenience branch for folks who migrated their repos from the old svn-mirror one. Yes, it's the same as master.
16:28:29 <kimmo2> figures
16:28:47 <kimmo2> is the xml file format backwards compatible?
16:29:14 <jralls> To 2.2.9.
16:29:21 <kimmo2> cool
16:30:01 <kimmo2> if I add say a assoc_uri to a transaction, and open that file in 2.4, will 2.4 preserve that, or lose that?
16:30:20 <kimmo2> or any other 2.6 new feature subnode
16:31:20 <warlord> kimmo2: depends on which piece.
16:31:38 <warlord> certain pieces do render your data file non-openable on older versions
16:31:42 <warlord> e.g., credit notes
16:32:17 <kimmo2> hmm I really should get around to the code and start contributing
16:32:27 <kimmo2> I'm counting 15 years of contemplating
16:33:04 <kimmo2> I still remember being annoyed by the change of plotting engine from 1.4 to 1.6
16:33:05 <kimmo2> ;)
16:33:29 <warlord> LOL
16:33:32 <kimmo2> or was that from 1.2 to 1.4
16:34:06 <warlord> I think 1.4 to 1.6.. Guppi to GOffice. And yes, it was annoying and a major regression in functionality... But Guppi had been completely abandoned.
16:34:14 <kimmo2> heh
16:35:13 <kimmo2> I remember the line graphs tracking account balance, and really can't think why I missed them so much
16:35:43 <kimmo2> I think I need a new workstation, it's still compiling
16:36:46 <kimmo2> lemme guess, 2.6 has a new custom report interface?
16:37:24 <kimmo2> any change cost centers or dimensions got implemented?
16:37:33 <kimmo2> chance
16:37:51 <kimmo2> can't type after some tonsil disinfectant
16:38:28 <kimmo2> although I should probably go soon, teeing off in 9 hours 50 minutes
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16:39:25 <warlord> sorry, nope, no tags
16:39:47 <kimmo2> rm -f guile-strings.c
16:39:47 <kimmo2> cd . && rm -f guile-strings.c \
16:39:47 <kimmo2> && -s ./xgettext.scm /ho
16:39:51 <kimmo2> heh
16:40:04 <kimmo2> "-s: command not found"
16:41:13 <warlord> kimmo2: looks like you're missing gettext
16:41:25 <kimmo2> why does this fail to set $GUILE
16:42:13 <warlord> because you're missing guile and/or guile-devel?
16:42:34 <kimmo2> nah, autoconf complained about that and I installed those
16:42:49 <kimmo2> I already had to set @GUILE@ somewhere and ${GUILE} in two places
16:43:16 <warlord> did you re-run autogen.sh after installing that?
16:43:17 <lmat> make check fails for me with clang because of that define in test-qofbook.c specifically for clang...
16:43:20 <kimmo2> yeah
16:43:34 <warlord> and configure found guile?
16:43:44 <kimmo2> I think I had to run autogen.sh about 40 times since I had _none_ of the devel libs
16:43:47 <kimmo2> yeah
16:43:58 <warlord> what version(s) of guile do you have installed?
16:44:35 <kimmo2> guile-devel-1.8.8-4.fc17.2.x86_64
16:44:35 <kimmo2> guile-1.8.8-4.fc17.2.x86_64
16:45:44 <warlord> Hmm. I dont think F17 has new-enough dependencies to build master.
16:46:02 <kimmo2> it does
16:46:04 <kimmo2> :D
16:46:12 <kimmo2> just fired it up
16:48:36 <jralls> lmat: Try changing it to #if defined __clang__ && defined __APPLE__
16:48:44 <linas> Hi, can everyone here please verify that you can get to www.gnucash.org ?
16:48:54 <lmat> jralls: That should do it.
16:49:04 <warlord> linas: ping works
16:49:06 <linas> I'm tinkering with the network and want to make sure it still works
16:49:12 <kimmo2> hrm, I've set 2.4 to use 10 "recent files", but 2.6.99 is showing the default 4... How do I change it again
16:49:13 <jralls> linas: Just loaded fine.
16:49:17 <kimmo2> I get the web just fine
16:49:20 <linas> how about the website?
16:49:35 <linas> thank you!
16:49:45 <kimmo2> web and wiki both work
16:50:12 <kimmo2> hrm, better hit the sack
16:51:45 <warlord> I'm seeing 40ms RTTs :)
16:52:45 <gjanssens_> kimmo2: use dconf editor to change the preference
16:52:56 <gjanssens_> linas: website is fine here
16:55:44 <linas> well that's it then. that went smoother than the first one
16:56:53 <jralls> gjanssens: I'm still battling with building gtk, right now trying to get past a bad file number error with gtk-update-icon-cache.
16:58:58 <gjanssens_> jralls: tx for the update
16:59:16 <gjanssens_> I saw several mentions of some build scripts for gtk on windows
16:59:28 <gjanssens_> So it seems it needs some tweaking to get working
16:59:52 <gjanssens_> (I believe there was on in the downloadable source or dev tarball)
16:59:58 <gjanssens_> s/on/one/
17:00:49 <gjanssens_> Time to take a nap...
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17:13:30 <linas> and, hey, I've already got ssh password crackers going on the new address
17:15:03 <linas> of course, I was getting those evern before I turned anything on ...
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17:50:43 <warlord> linas: fail2ban or swatch helps.
17:57:25 <linas> yep. its just .. irritating. and .. and the sheer quantity is amazing
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19:06:58 <jralls> lmat: The problem I'm having with KvpValueImpl is that the datastore<KvpValue*>.type() != typeid(KvpValue*). The debugger won't execute typeid() so I can't see any deeper than that.
19:23:31 <jralls> It seems to work OK for the other types.
19:23:42 <jralls> Time to go make dinner.
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