2020-09-29 GnuCash IRC logs
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01:29:31 <pokyCoder> Having trouble with mysql on a new Windows 10 machine. My database is on a local server that works perfectly from my Ubuntu desktop. I can pull up the database using the MySQL Workbench on Windows, but GnuCash gives me 'The server at URL mysql://[user]@127.0.0.1:[local_port]/[db_name] has experienced an error or encountered bad or corrupt data.' Is there a way to resolve this issue?
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03:23:44 <gjanssens> .
03:23:44 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 2 days, 0 hours, and 57 minutes ago: <chris> and jralls - not sure what happened to the win32 packager - formerly the original .scms were available for viewing (and editing) within C:\Program Files (x86)\Gnucash hierarchy; now I can find only .go files. This doesn't bother me much, except that with this change I can no longer hack on win32 installation without waiting for a daily build.
03:23:45 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 2 days, 0 hours, and 56 minutes ago: <chris> and jralls - I am not requesting to revert, mind... just a small reduction in hackability.
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03:35:54 <gjanssens> Regarding "17:31:40 <fell> Do you know a way to get an older version from flathub?"
03:36:27 <gjanssens> It can't be done from the average package manager, but it can be done from the command line.
03:36:40 <gjanssens> It's a two-step command:
03:36:45 <gjanssens> flatpak remote-info --log flathub org.gnucash.GnuCash
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03:37:04 <gjanssens> That will list all commits in the repo
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03:42:46 <gjanssens> flatpak update --commit=HASH org.gnucash.GnuCash
03:43:12 <gjanssens> This will checkout commit HASH in the repo.
03:43:57 <gjanssens> The only gotcha is that if you have more than one repo that has org.gnucash.GnuCash I haven't found a way to tell the command which repo you want to manipulate.
03:44:49 <gjanssens> It looks flatpak will to update all installed versions.
03:45:30 <gjanssens> If you have one app installed from our nightlies and one from flathub, the above command will fail as only the flathub repo will have the proper commit hash.
03:54:24 <gjanssens> chris: I don't think the removal of original scm files from the windows build was intentional. Sounds like a bug to me.
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03:55:54 <andreas^> hello.
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04:02:51 <andreas^> what do the "n" and "c" flags do?
04:03:08 <andreas^> in split transactions.
04:03:23 <andreas^> I also don't know what a split transaction is.
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04:38:22 <andreas^> what are the files ending with .in?
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04:54:33 <gjanssens> andreas^: the first two are gnucash user questions and are explained in our tutorial and concepts guide which you find on our website.
04:55:14 <gjanssens> In short "c" stands for "cleared", "n" stands for "not reconciled". Those are flags indicating the reconcile status of a split.
04:56:05 <gjanssens> As for "split transaction" every transaction is gnucash is a split transaction, as each transaction exists of at least two splits (due to the double entry accounting design decision)
04:56:50 <andreas^> gjanssens: I read what you wrote but I need to go.
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04:56:57 <gjanssens> However in the gui, "split transaction" is used to indicate the transaction consists of more than two splits, and we can't display all those details in a single line.
04:57:26 <gjanssens> @tell andreas^ However in the gui, "split transaction" is used to indicate the transaction consists of more than two splits, and we can't display all those details in a single line.
04:57:26 <gncbot> gjanssens: The operation succeeded.
04:58:25 <gjanssens> @tell andreas^ .in files are source files that need special preprocessing before they can be used. Think of them as template files which need some fields filled in before they make sense.
04:58:25 <gncbot> gjanssens: The operation succeeded.
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07:03:53 <chris> exploring moneydance is worth it -- it has a nice calendar with upcoming reminders & SX
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08:36:34 <chris> they also have a generic 'reminder' system which I think would be nice(TM)
08:52:33 <warlord> .
08:52:38 <warlord> You get what you pay for, I guess.
08:52:52 <warlord> Well, I have the more important one working (the one by the garage door).
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08:53:26 <warlord> OOPS. Wrong window.
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10:34:45 <fell> gjanssens, thanks! https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?title=Flatpak&type=revision&diff=16797&oldid=16796
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10:37:47 <gjanssens> fell: you're welcome
10:38:28 <gjanssens> And on the topic of a cms, wordpress is indeed popular but also a beast to install (my wife's business website uses it)
10:38:59 <gjanssens> There are other options, particularly for our website that doesn't have much dynamic or interactive pages.
10:39:20 <gjanssens> In recent years static site generators have become increasingly popular.
10:40:01 <gjanssens> They work much like a cms in that you can have a webinterface to easily adjust content, but that interface doesn't have to be shared publicly
10:40:41 <gjanssens> Instead these systems add a publishing step that will convert the content into static webpages which you can the publish.
10:41:39 <gjanssens> As there's less exposure to php scripts, this is much less of a security burden (provided of course the input webinterface is sufficiently guarded).
10:42:36 <gjanssens> Others take markdown pages as input.
10:42:54 <gjanssens> So that's close to maintaining a wiki.
10:43:43 <fell> How do they handle gettext stuff?
10:43:44 <gjanssens> However a proper static site generator comes with themes that cater for desktop an mobile browsing.
10:44:16 <gjanssens> I don't know all the details as I haven't used any so far (though I have become increasingly interested).
10:44:43 <gjanssens> I'm pretty sure they will support translation in some form or another.
10:45:24 <gjanssens> For example: https://gohugo.io/
10:45:55 <fell> One though behind using a popular tool was to attract new contributors.
10:46:04 <gjanssens> Its documentation has a whole section on https://gohugo.io/content-management/multilingual/#translate-your-content
10:47:35 <gjanssens> Yeah. I guess a static site generator is already better, though it's probably lower level than a full featured cms like wordpress or drupal
10:47:52 <gjanssens> It depends really on how much control you want to keep.
10:48:24 <gjanssens> Another advantage of a static site generator is that you don't need linas to setup a db for us and install the cms.
10:48:51 <gjanssens> The final website is just plain html/css (with perhaps some javascript mixed in).
10:49:42 * chris agree static site generator. accepts .md .html/css. wordpress is indeed a major beast and contributors are not needed for most wordpress plugins... just need content
10:50:26 <fell> And who creates the content?
10:51:02 <gjanssens> Here's another one: https://jekyllrb.com/
10:54:52 <gjanssens> Both take markdown as input, (with other formats available as well), but so far I didn't find a webinterface for them. So that part may be only a half-truth :)
10:56:51 <chris> github.io is another one
10:59:04 <fell> GitHub Pages are powered by Jekyll,
10:59:22 <gjanssens> Just discovered that as well :)
11:00:51 <fell> Really tricky, how MS as GH owner gets access to many free software ;-)
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11:03:42 <chris> not tricky, they always had access... now they're actively supporting free software with good infrastructure (github) and tools (vscode)
11:04:59 <chris> apple otoh gives lip service to oss then charges for plastic and metal
11:05:14 <chris> gtg now no more politicising
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12:20:10 <jralls> chris, Apple is a major supporter of FOSS too: Webkit and LLVM are both Apple projects.
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