TXF categories for French tax system

[Parker Jones]

Hello Alex,

> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:05:06 -0800
> Subject: Re: TXF categories for French tax system
> From: alex.aycinena at gmail.com
> To: gnucash-devel at gnucash.org
> 
> Parker,
> 
> > From: Parker Jones <zoubidoo at hotmail.com>
> > To: <gnucash-devel at gnucash.org>
> > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:34:37 +1300
> > Subject: TXF categories for French tax system
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I saw that gnucash comes with German tax categories and at first glance this appears to be working when when gnucash is started with a German locale.  This led me to wonder whether it might be possible to create something similar for the French tax system.
> >
> > On IRC Warlord suggested I should contact Christian on this list.
> >
> > Digging around, the main changes seem to be:
> >
> > ./scm/txf.scm  ->  txf-de_DE.scm
> > ./guile-modules/gnucash/report/taxtxf.scm  ->  taxtxf-de_DE.scm
> > ./guile-modules/gnucash/report/locale-specific/us.scm  ->  de_DE.scm
> > ./guile-modules/gnucash/tax/us.scm  -->  de_DE.scm
> >
> > Are there any others I missed?  The diffs don't look very large, but there seems to be a fair bit of duplicated code.
> >
> > I'm willing to try to create a French version but just wanted to see if anything is already being done in this area.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Parker
> 
> I have recently made significant changes to the US Income Tax
> reporting bits that have not been reflected in the German equivalents.
> I believe that the German version was done quite some time ago by
> Christian as sort of a proof of concept and it hasn't been maintained
> - but he can speak to that better than I.
> 
> If you want to add French Income Tax capabilities that would be great,
> in my opinion. However, I think we should discuss whether following
> the approach done for the German taxes is a good long-term solution.
> The problem with making it locale dependent in the way the current
> German implementation works is that it doesn't handle cases in which
> people need to file in more than one jurisdiction - it's an either/or
> approach. I think it would make more sense to use an approach where,
> if there is more than one maintained jurisdictional Income Tax system
> available in the system, the user can select which (none, one or
> several) to use and the individual accounts can then be tagged with
> the appropriate codes accordingly (i.e., potentially with more than
> one code per account). This would accommodate people who have to file
> in more than one jurisdiction and, in the US, allow for both federal
> and state level reporting as a future enhancement. However, this
> approach involves more work than extending the approach done for the
> German taxes.

Makes sense.

> Another problem that the current US Income Tax reporting approach
> needs to deal with, is that it is based on the apparently abandoned
> TXF pseudo-standard. Intuit used to maintain the TXF spec but the last
> one seems to be from about 2004. I just updated gnucash to use it (the
> latest spec), as well as added support for corporations and
> partnerships using the latest specs for them, but it looks like there
> will be no further revisions to these specs. I thought of adding codes
> for non-profit organizations, for example, but recent changes in the
> US tax form are not reflected in the latest TXF spec, so I abandoned
> that effort.

In the absence of an international standard (as far as I am aware), I expect there won't be a single output format as it will depend on the tax system in question.

According to the gnucash source for German tax reports it outputs:
[...] XML file as required by
;; e.g. the Winston software
;; http://www.felfri.de/winston/schnittstellen.htm


> I do not know what source Christian used for his German codes or
> whether that source is still valid. What did you have in mind as the
> source for codes for French Income Taxes?

The French tax codes can be found here: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_comptable_%28France%29  At the bottom of the article there is a link to the official source on the finance ministry's website.

Best regards,
Parker
 		 	   		  
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