Date or Date-and-time for transactions
Derek Atkins
warlord at MIT.EDU
Fri Nov 30 10:09:37 EST 2012
John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> writes:
>> As you say, the dates are stored as ISO8601, or converted from local
>> time to UTC. So I think even in a multi-user environment we're fine,
>> because datetimes will either have a local timezone or be converted to
>> UTC and therefore end up in the correct order.
>
> Right. Since ISO8601 specifies that date-times are converted to UTC
> (Z), we currently convert to-and-from the local TZ when we instantiate
> objects with a Timespec field. I'm saying we should stop doing that
> and just use UTC for timestamps. This has the added benefit of making
> unnecessary the GTimeZone workarounds for MSWin, all of the messiness
> associated with DST, and a boatload of code.
Actually, the XML file stores times as local times. Here's an example
from my data file:
<trn:date-posted>
<ts:date>2007-01-01 00:00:00 -0500</ts:date>
</trn:date-posted>
<trn:date-entered>
<ts:date>2007-08-13 15:15:22 -0400</ts:date>
</trn:date-entered>
And it looks like it uses 00:00:00 as the base post time, not 12:00:00.
But yes, we can (and possibly should) ignore the time/tz of the post
time and just take the date (2007-01-01 in the above example).
>>>> IMHO the Post Date should be an actual Date, and not a Timespec. But
>>>> changing the data format is -- challenging. ;)
>>>
>>> Actually, the stored date format is an ISO8601 date-time string, so we
>>> can do whatever we want for an internal representation.
>>
>> The issue is semantics. How do we know whether a data file is using the
>> old interpretation or the new interpretation of a timestamp for the Post
>> Date?
>
> ATM, we store YYYY-MM-DD 12:00:00Z. For backwards compatibility, I
> suppose we should continue to do so. The change will be that
> internally we'll just make a GDate from it.
I think we only do this in the SQL backend. We don't in XML.
-derek
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