New Account Dialog

[David Carlson]

Hi,

I am now at a real computer keyboard and I have reviewed the current
documentation on a device with a larger screen.

The Tutorial seems to be far more detailed than I recall from the days when
I was first learning how to use GnuCash.  That is good.  However, I think
that new users may find that daunting, and a synopsis has a lot of value
there.

The other thing that I noticed is that the help manual does not have any
descriptions of the New Account dialog, the price editor or the security
editor or the components of each.  I think that these need to be added to
that manual.

Thanks to all for your efforts in this area.

David C

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:51 AM, David T. via gnucash-devel <
gnucash-devel at gnucash.org> wrote:

> I have put this into a bug:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769256 <
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769256>
>
> > On Jul 28, 2016, at 5:25 AM, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Alex Aycinena <alex.aycinena at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:00 AM, <gnucash-devel-request at gnucash.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> From: "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> >>> To: GnuCash-Devel <gnucash-devel at gnucash.org>
> >>> Cc:
> >>> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:25:11 +0500
> >>> Subject: New Account Dialog
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> In recent weeks, there have been a number of threads on the user list
> in
> >>> which users have had difficulties setting up accounts for equities and
> >>> mutual funds. These users have not been able to set the
> Security/Currency
> >>> to an appropriate value because the account type was not correctly set.
> >>>
> >>> I believe that the New Account dialog contributes to this problem by
> the
> >>> way it is set up. The sequence of fields in the dialog does not match
> the
> >>> required sequence of input; the user must correctly set the Account
> Type
> >>> field (located at the bottom of the dialog) *BEFORE* they can
> correctly set
> >>> the Security/currency field.
> >>>
> >>> Not only is this sequence confusing to new users, it is an annoyance
> for
> >>> experienced users as well, since the user must manually relocate to the
> >>> type field, set the type, and then manually relocate back to the
> currency
> >>> field to set it. This quickly gets burdensome.
> >>>
> >>> At the very least, I would suggest that it would be much clearer and
> >>> easier to all users to have the Account Type field placed immediately
> after
> >>> the Description field, and that it be changed to a drop down list. This
> >>> would make it clearer to new users and more efficient for others,
> without
> >>> entailing a great deal of change to the program.
> >>>
> >>> I can add a bug to bugzilla if it seems that this would be useful.
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> David,
> >>>
> >>> I think that that's quite well explained in Chapter 8 of the guide, and
> >>> the new user's problems are largely down to not reading the
> documentation
> >>> before diving in.
> >>>
> >>> I agree with to your proposed change to the UI for 2.8, and it should
> be
> >>> as you say fairly simple, probably only a Glade change with no code.
> Please
> >>> do file a bug so that we remember to do it.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> John Ralls
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am currently doing some work that will change the Account dialog for
> >> other reasons. If everyone is in agreement, I can change the layout as
> >> David suggests in the course of that work. I would probably commit that
> to
> >> master in a few weeks.
> >
> > Alex,
> >
> > That would be great, thanks!
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
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