Lots in Account screen : Value sign

David Carlson david.carlson.417 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 19 15:45:03 EST 2016


Hi Chris

I just looked at the the current state of nightly build for Tutorial and
Concepts Guide lots section of the investments chapter, and I now see how
the lots features are supposed to work.  I think that pointing out in that
section that Buy transactions are considered Opening Transactions if they
precede the Sales or Closing transactions in time, and the opposite would
be true in the case of short sales.  This would tie in to the Opened and
Closed labels in the the Lots panel, and would also suggest a way to handle
a short sale to users who might do that.

I like the overall structure of that section and how it makes a seemingly
overwhelming topic manageable.

David C

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Chris Good <chris.good at ozemail.com.au>
wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Can you please explain more about where you would like to see the "Opening
> Transaction" and "Closing Transaction" terms?
>
> Regards,
> Chris Good
>
> On 20 Nov 2016, at 5:54 AM, David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I do not currently use the lots feature either, but I agree that I would
> not consider using it unless the display were consistent as Geert says the
> next version will be.  Other use cases that would clearly benefit would be
> short sales and option transactions.
>
> I think that if the terms "Opening Transaction" and "Closing Transaction"
> are used in the documentation, it would be easy to distinguish which lots
> are eligible for matching.
>
> David C
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Geert Janssens <
> geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 17 November 2016 11:30:18 Chris Good wrote:
>> > Re https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=770364
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Currently the Lots in Account screen reverses the sign of the value
>> > shown in all the splits in the Splits Free and Splits in Lot panels,
>> > except the first. The reason this was done seems to be that because
>> > each buy has a unique lot, the first transaction (usually a buy)
>> > should be +ve and all the other splits in the lot should be sales
>> > (-ve).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > This makes the Splits Free panel confusing because it can contain
>> > splits from multiple buys and sells.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I would like to change it so that the changing of the sign is removed
>> > from both the Splits Free and Splits in Lot panels.
>> >
>> > I.e. Buys: Amount (No of shares) and Value are +ve, Sells: Amount and
>> > Value are -ve.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any further input as to why the signs should be as
>> > they are or objections to this change?
>> >
>> Just for completeness, the next version of gnucash will already remove
>> this from the Splits Free
>> panel as it makes no sense at all there. So the discussion here should
>> focus solely on the Splits
>> in Lot part of the lot viewer.
>>
>> Other than that I don't have an opinion on this. I don't know why this
>> inversion was added and I
>> don't use lots for capital gains calculations.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Geert
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