Fw: VAT Call for Software developers

Mike or Penny Novack stepbystepfarm at dialup4less.com
Thu Aug 17 11:50:08 EDT 2017

Uh ... Putting my "business analyst" hat on I see nothing there which 
says WHAT data needs to be transmitted to them digitally.

This discussion has seemed to be making the assumption that gnucash 
would need to be sending it's "books" to them digitally which is NOT the 
same thing as saying that some reports, filings, etc. must be sent to 
them digitally << perhaps they get exported and then something else 
sends them >>

For example here I might do an electronic FILING using data produced by 
gnucash to supply the numbers that get filled in during the electronic 
filing process. But gnucash is not doing the electronic filing.

I think, before involving coding developers we need that information so 
that "business" level developers can determine what the REQUIREMENTS are.

Michael D Novack

PS: In my working days, sometimes wore one of those hats and sometimes 
the other.

On 8/17/2017 8:47 AM, Mike Evans wrote:
> I just received this from HMRC.
> Begin forwarded message:
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 10:46:57 +0000
> From: <SDSTeam at hmrc.gsi.gov.uk>
> To: <SDSTeam at hmrc.gsi.gov.uk>
> Subject: VAT Call for Software developers
> Dear All,
> I writing to tell you about a conference call that has been arranged for 11:00am on 05 September 2017.
> You may be aware that the Government has proposed that businesses with a turnover above the VAT threshold (currently £85,000) will be mandated to keep digital records and submit data to HMRC through its secure API platform service. The changes will take place from April 2019 for VAT.
> Current plans are to make the APIs available for private beta test in October 2017 and we want to advise interested software vendors about our thinking as well as provide them with an early opportunity to raise any issues or questions. It will of course also help us identify if your company is considering developing or enhancing a VAT product to support the proposals.
> We can then arrange to work with you going forward, providing the usual technical assistance and other support needed to prepare for the pilot, from April 18 and  in readiness for the changes being mandated from April 2019.
>    *   Only businesses with a turnover above the VAT threshold will have to keep digital records and only for VAT purposes. They will only need to do so from 2019.
>    *   Other businesses will be able to file digitally on a voluntary basis for both VAT and Income Tax and NICs
> Our current development schedule is as follows
>    1.  October 2017 - private beta (API testing) with interested software vendors
>    2.  April 2018 - public beta (pilot) data submission for VAT purposes (MVP to include unincorporated businesses); we will be inviting business volunteers throughout the year, anticipating that early adopters will already be using software and therefore likely to already be your customers. These will include both Tax Agents, their clients as well as unrepresented VAT businesses.
>    3.  From April 2019 - data submission for VAT purposes (that is all VAT-registered businesses whether the business is unincorporated or not); Mandated for VAT registered businesses with a turnover above the VAT threshold, but all VAT registered businesses can use the service.
> Please let me know if you intend to join the call so I can make the necessary arrangements. Please send your reply to this email no later than 17:00 on  24th August 2017.
> Kind Regards
> Dennis Dawkins |Senior Delivery Operations Lead| HMRC CDIO Digital - Software Developers Collaboration -  Software Developers Support Team (SDST) | 2nd Floor, Accounts Office Shipley, Victoria Street, Shipley BD98 8AA
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