[GNC-dev] GTK3 Mnemonics

[John Ralls]

> On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:01 AM, Frank H. Ellenberger <frank.h.ellenberger at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> Am 20.10.18 um 08:30 schrieb Chris Good:
>> Hi Frank,
>> 
>> In your edit of the gtk3 wiki [1], you added in part:
>> 
>> === Circumvent Bad GTK3 Design decisions ===
>>  ==== Get Visible Mnenomics Back ====
>> Since GTK3.10 the underlines of the mnenomics are only visible after you
>> hovered the mouse over the element ''and'' pressed <code>alt</code>. 
>> 
>> In $SCOPE/gtk-3.0/settings.ini, add a line:
>> 
>> <SyntaxHighlight lang="ini">
>> [Settings]
>> # Visible Mnenomics
>> gtk-menu-images = true
>> </SyntaxHighlight>
>> 
>> which I was glad to see as I had noticed mnemonics seemed to have
>> disappeared from GC 3.
> 
> while my current working area is testing translations and eventually get
> the GUI closer to what I had thought is the HIG, I stumbled in this
> changes in GTK. So I started, to write down, what I collected from the
> internet. Some notes might be incomplete or outdated. So feel free to
> improve them.
> 
>> I tested setting ' gtk-menu-images = true' in settings.ini (Windows 10,
>> GC3.1) and it doesn't seem to do anything for me.
>> 
>> https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkSettings.htm indicates
>>  gtk-menu-images
>>  gtk-auto-mnemonics
>>  gtk-enable-mnemonics
>> have been deprecated since version 3.10.
>> 
>> In Windows the behaviour I see is that the first time the right click
>> transaction menu appears, mnemonics are NOT shown, but if you either:
>>  Go into a dialog, say Duplicate Transaction, a couple of times (with or
>> without using the Alt key (mnemonic activator))
>>  Or Go into a dialog, say Duplicate Transaction, and use the Alt key
>>  Or Use the Alt key in the right click transaction menu
>> mnemonics are shown from then on in the right click transaction menu.
>> 
>> Note for me, it is not needed to hover the mouse pointer over the element,
>> just hold the Alt key for approx. half to 1 second.
>> 
>> It seems to me that GTK3 wishes to remove any options for using mnemonics
>> and just turn it on using the mnemonic activator key.
>> Can anyone verify that or provide links that indicate how it should work?
> 
> As you noted, the GTK manual is not very helpful. In other, secondary
> sources I read the devs think, it is cluttering the appearance. If they
> think, a cool look is more important than usability ...
> 
> But probably John knows more about this decisions and alternative
> approaches.
> 
>> [1]
>> https://code.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?title=GTK3&diff=14720&oldid=14717 <https://code.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?title=GTK3&diff=14720&oldid=14717>
>> 
>> Regards, Chris Good

No, not really. I try to follow what’s going on but the places I’m lurking haven’t yielded much information for the last couple of years.

Regards,
John Ralls