[GNC-dev] Wiki Building Instructions Reorganization

davidcousens49 at gmail.com davidcousens49 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 21 18:10:16 EDT 2018

>"What do you mean with "features type marketing" ?"

What I was getting at was that a comprehensive list of distributions that GnuCash runs on
was more relevant to users making a decision to use it, hence the marketing (I didn't intend in the commercial sense
though). I don't feel that its really necessary
to cover every Linux version in the build instructions but perhaps more usefulto illustrate examples from  distributions
pehaps where there may be more significant differences (I also don't know a lot about the different variants and we
probably have to rely on our user base to provide information there). 

The key bit of information is that you need to install specific tools and libraries/headers and you will use some sort
of package manager to do that. 

The user should from that be able to research what they need to use for their particular distribution if it is not one
we specifically mention.

Will ignore calmares. I'll check the comments out on the page.



On Fri, 2018-09-21 at 12:08 +0200, Geert Janssens wrote:
> Op donderdag 20 september 2018 22:21:25 CEST schreef davidcousens49 at gmail.com:
> > On Thu, 2018-09-20 at 11:37 -0500, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > > From the installation page (which includes some RHEL based distro links) I
> > > see there are breakout pages for FreeBSD and Solaris. (now OpenIndiana)
> > > Are these still relevant? Should the ‘FreeBSD’ page be re-labeled ‘BSD’?
> > > The Solaris page looks like it is circa 2007.
> > 
> > Unless there are really significant differences from distribution to
> > distribution and I doubt there are really apart from those above.
> Don't be mistaken by the similarity in names. The *BSD family has various 
> independent package management systems, which I otherwise have no experience 
> with at all :)
> But a quick net search revealed netbsd uses pkg_add/pkg_remove and a make 
> based installation system to install directly from source. Freebsd has a "pgk" 
> tool (without the _add,_remove parts) to install binaries and a ports system 
> to install directly from sources.
> Having said all that I don't expect you to detail all of that. For starters I 
> believe most *BSD users are more accustomed to building from source because 
> it's inherently integrated in their system. So I expect most of them can read 
> linux based build instructions and translate them to their *BSD flavor. In 
> addition if extra instructions are desirable for a given *BSD flavor I would 
> welcome someone more knowledgeable about those platforms to chime in.
> In the initial version we can restrict ourselves to stating "GnuCash is known 
> to build and run on different *BSD systems, however we currently lack the 
> knowledge to document here how it's done". Well, formulated more nicely.
> > I think a
> > list of distributions really belongs in the features type marketing.
> What do you mean with "features type marketing" ?
> > In the
> > Installation page it is a bit more relevant as it lists the distros which
> > have Gnucash available from their package management cache. This section is
> > probably more relevant to those that don't and those of us who like to be
> > at the bleeding edge.
> > > On that note, perhaps backing up a step to ‘Installation’ might be a good
> > > idea to make sure everything is tidy.
> > 
> > Good idea ,I'll check out consistency. The Building page is a breakout from
> > the Installation page.
> > > Package Formats
> > > ---------------
> > > I thought calameres was an installer used to install distros, not a
> > > packaging format, though I could be misunderstanding it’s scope. (QT
> > > based DE’s seem to like it)
> > 
> > It possibly is. I did a search around for different package managers and
> > dsitribution independent installers. I had the impression it was supposed
> > to be a distribution independent installer as that was what I was searching
> > for (flatpak, snap etc)at the time ( ionly read the first paragraph on the
> > page). They probably belong in the Installation page rather than here
> > anyway, but maybe some notes for people preparing such packages to include
> > all compile options and anything which can go in the package setup to make
> > it work without having to manually bypass the sandboxing of the OS might
> > help.
> Calamares is indeed outside of the scope here. As Adrien notes it's a 
> distribution installer, that is the tool you use to install a linux 
> distribution on your PC. It's unique in that it's a collaborative project 
> supported by several - but mostly smaller - distributions. Once the 
> distribution is installed, extra software is installed via the distribution's 
> own package manager. At that point calamares is not relevant any more.
> David,
> I have read your initial work on the Build page and I have added some remarks 
> in the discussion part of that page. It thought that more appropriate than 
> here on the mailing list.
> Regards,
> Geert
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