[GNC-dev] Further feedback

Christopher Lam christopher.lck at gmail.com
Fri Feb 8 23:05:24 EST 2019


Well I've been schooled.

Please refresh and try again.

The headers should match the desired report *post* reconciliation.

The transactions reported are: uncleared, cleared, and reconciliation 
whereby split-reconciliation-date = account's last-reconciliation-date.

On 9/2/19 10:19 am, Steve Butler wrote:
> Sorry for top posting.  Checked the transaction report items.  One is 
> Reconciled Date.   That date matches the bank statement date on which 
> it was reconciled.
>
> How does that report get that date per transaction if the field 
> doesn't exist?
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019, 17:52 Christopher Lam <christopher.lck at gmail.com 
> <mailto:christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     On 9/2/19 7:49 am, Stephen M. Butler wrote:
>     > On 2/8/19 5:12 AM, Christopher Lam wrote:
>     >> I've been experimenting and I think there's a logic error in your
>     >> thinking -- *during* reconciliation, until it's complete, all
>     >> 'reconciled' transactions are labelled 'cleared'. Reconciled
>     >> transactions are, so to speak, gone and don't need to be shown on a
>     >> reconciliation report.
>     > The reconciliation report should run just after reconciliation has
>     > finished.  Therefore, the just reconciled items will be marked as
>     > reconciled.
>
>     I do agree in principle... however the internal logic of GnuCash
>     dictates that there is no such thing as "just reconciled items".
>
>     Consider a very busy bank account needing regular
>     reconciliation... on
>     15-january you try reconcile but you've written and recorded a
>     check for
>     $53.50 on 20-december which is still not cleared. This $53.50 will
>     remain unreconciled ("outstanding") causing a discrepancy of $53.50
>     between your 15-January bank statement, and your book. You reconcile,
>     skipping the $53.50 amount, and all's well.
>
>     On 15-february the bank statement arrives, and the $53.50 check has
>     cleared on 19-january. The $53.50 status changes from
>     (n)unreconciled to
>     (c)cleared. Additionally all intermediate transactions are
>     cleared. Your
>     15-february bank statement now matches your books.
>
>     According to my suggestions above logic the $53.50 will be counted in
>     the 'cleared' header, and be present in the reconciliation report.
>     You
>     will afterwards then complete the reconciliation, which converts all
>     'c'leared to 'y'reconciled.
>
>     If we were to follow your logic, and if we run the reconciliation
>     report
>     on 15-february, and if we *aim* to look for the 'just-reconciled'
>     items,
>     we will definitely miss the $53.50 transaction dated 20-December
>     because
>     it's now reconciled/"archived". Remember the transactions do *NOT*
>     have
>     a 'reconciliation date' so we cannot look for them using a simple
>     query.
>     Only accounts have a last-reconciliation-date. We will *not* find
>     them
>     by querying 'reconciliation-date minus 1 day'.
>
>     Logically you're not wrong but GnuCash internal logic will dictate
>     the
>     above process must be followed.
>


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