[GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

[Wm]

On 24/02/2019 08:44, Geert Janssens wrote:

> Completely agree in today's context. There have been reasons in the past it
> was done as it is. If someone has spare time and epxerience I gladly accept
> patches to fix this technical debt.

There was nothing to fix in this regard in gnc 2.x

gnc 3.x changed things, do *not* try and escape this, Geert!

gnc 3.x made things worse not better in this regard.  Understand?

>> The fact that we even need a wiki page dedicated to file and configuration
>> locations-- let alone one as long and convoluted as the one we have (and
>> which needs additional diagramming)-- only underscores this problem.
>>
> No, it underscores the dev team's willingness to be as open as possible about
> the complexities of a mature cross-platform application. Many applications
> store (meta)data is locations defined by the context. 

I know what you are saying, Geert, you are also wrong.  The 
implementation of those concepts in gnc 3.x is a disaster for some, e.g 
I have charities that cannot use gnc 3.x

I must ask again, because I do not want to shoot the messenger, who 
thought this change from 2.x to 3.x was a good idea?  Who proposed it? 
Did the person that proposed it understand what they were suggesting 
meant for all people or just for themselves?

This change is fundamentally wrong to what I understand the gnc ethos to 
be.  People should have access to their own data, people should control 
their own data, people's data should be where they expect it to be.

Geert, the way you are talking it sounds like you voted for Facebook.

> Go search for
> libreoffice's metadata for example, or firefox'. If you would want to document
> their metadata structures, you'd see something similar or even more complex.

I know both those programs and know where they store stuff.  You may 
recall I mentioned portableapps.com a while ago so don't be surprised 
/someone else knows about where other apps put stuff.

In short, documenting metdata structures about gnc is mainly done.  So 
shut up and do something useful, please.

> Part of the complexity comes from the multi-platform nature of gnucash. Each
> platform defines their own default locations for various kinds of data. And
> gnucash tries to apply these per platform.

Geert: I think you just made another lie in pubic.

The question is: should it?  It is a lie that where to put files was an 
issue in getting gnc implemented on Windows.

gnucash should be thinking for itself.

if you go for the "each platform says where things should go" I will 
have access to your file and you will have access to mine in one years time.

Try using your fucking brain for independent thought once!

>> I want to be clear that I am truly grateful that Chris has decided to work
>> on reports, and I have great respect for his ability to work with Scheme.
>> I've yet to succeed in either editing an existing report or getting a third
>> party report installed on my Mac. 13 years of futility on that front!
> 
> Yes, unfortunately this isn't very user friendly. I'm sure it can be improved.
> Again it requires someone with time available and coding experience to
> implement it.

There is no person with coding experience available, get used to it. 
Move on.

I also notice that I am being told to move on, who do you think is right 
or wrong, Geert?


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