[GNC-dev] [GNC] Transaction Report Sign Reverses
David T.
sunfish62 at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 13 10:50:17 EDT 2019
Chris,
Thanks for returning to this.
I see that this is a patch file for trep-engine.scm. My only experience
using patches was when I was on a Mac; now I am on Windows, and wonder
which tools to use to apply your patch.
Moreover, I am using 3.5, and do not find trep-engine.scm anywhere in
C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash. Does "recent build" mean?? GC 3.7?
Best,
David T.
On 10/13/2019 6:51 PM, Christopher Lam wrote:
> Hi David, I'd had a review of transaction-report and can attempt fix
> signs for subtotals when sorting by 'account name'.
> The difficult issue remains how to handle reversals when sorting by
> 'other account name'. I think it's buggy and not sure how to handle it.
> Try this patch to trep-engine.scm in a recent build.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 08:45, David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com
> <mailto:sunfish62 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> Well, it seems odd to me that "Double" display (as Adrien
> noted)(thank you, Adrien!) is able to display the figures as the
> user prefers. It is also odd to me that the report knows to switch
> the values of the individual transactions, but is unable to
> remember that fact when it comes to the totals. That right there
> is the problem.
>
> As for the FAQ, it seems to me that there is a mistake in the
> example there: the GnuCash option is to change signs for Income
> *and* Expenses. But the example provided reverses Income but not
> Expenses. Were it to reverse both sets of accounts as the
> preference indicates, then the math should work out correctly
> ($100+10-20=$90). Or am I missing something here?
>
> Why is it not possible to perform the calculation for totals and
> then apply a display modifier so that the user sees numbers as
> they prefer?
>
> The current solution is a poor one.
>
> On 8/12/2019 11:12 AM, Christopher Lam wrote:
>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Why_does_the_Transaction_Report_.27Sign_Reversal.27_setting_not_work_on_subtotals
>>
>>
>> This issue could be fixed if the scenario addressed in this FAQ
>> can be resolved. I don't really know how to handle that
>> particular case.
>>
>> On Mon., 12 Aug. 2019, 13:02 David T. via gnucash-user,
>> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to create a YTD Capital Gains report, and am
>> encountering a
>> problem with how the Transaction Report implements the Sign
>> Reverses
>> setting.
>>
>> I recall some time back a discussion about the fact that the
>> Sign
>> Reverses setting reverses signs in these reports in a
>> confusing way.
>> There was some discussion about reversing the individual
>> transactions
>> but not the totals. Although I do not recall the specifics of
>> the
>> discussion, I am encountering the same situation now, where the
>> transactions themselves respect the user setting, but the
>> totals do not.
>> To say this is confusing is an understatement.
>>
>> It seems to me that other financial applications must have
>> encountered
>> the problem of displaying income to users as a positive value
>> (since
>> that is how most of us view income!) while still finding a
>> way to
>> display the correct accounting information.
>>
>> To display my YTD report of Capital Gains, I ran a
>> Transaction Report
>> and selected the Income:Realized Gains accounts for the
>> current year.
>> The result shows losses as positive numbers, and gains as
>> negative. I
>> don't know about you, but my expectation is reversed from
>> this. If I
>> change the Sign Reverses setting to Income and Expense, then the
>> transactions switch, but the totals do not. This result was
>> the gist of
>> the discussion in an earlier thread. Bleah!
>>
>> Now, I know that I can copy the data, paste it into another
>> program and
>> change all the settings to my heart's content, but I am
>> looking for a
>> way to run a report in GnuCash that directly and
>> unambiguously shows me
>> whether I have gained money (a positive) or lost it (a
>> negative) over
>> the current year. Does anyone have suggestions?
>>
>> FWIW, I attempted to turn this report around and have a
>> report that
>> lists transactions in the asset accounts, filtered by the
>> Income:Realized Gains accounts, but that seems to report only
>> the Asset
>> account currency--in this case, the mutual fund or stock
>> shares involved
>> on the Gain/Loss transaction. Unfortunately, that's not the
>> actual
>> Gain/Loss value...
>>
>> It would be nice if the sign reverses setting could be fixed.
>> Barring
>> that, does anyone have a workaround report setup that can
>> give me a
>> sensible YTD Capital Gains total as described?
>>
>> David T.
>>
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