[GNC-dev] Feedback on GnuCash 3.903
mark sattolo
mh.satto at gmail.com
Thu Jun 4 19:25:53 EDT 2020
Yes, that makes sense. I did some more digging around, and not all my
custom column widths were changed, just those for any of the accounts that
I actually opened while using version 3.903. Which happened to be quite a
few as I was testing various transactions, etc.
*Mark Sattolo*
*mh.satto at gmail.com <mh.satto at gmail.com>*
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:15 PM D. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mark,
>
> If that's true, I imagine it's a mistake. At least I hope so! I trust the
> devs will fix it, since I'd be pretty upset to have to reset column widths
> on all my accounts...
>
> David
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: mark sattolo <mh.satto at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thu Jun 04 19:07:27 EDT 2020
> To: gnucash-devel <gnucash-devel at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] Feedback on GnuCash 3.903
>
> Also fyi, I just noticed that version 3.903 overwrote all the custom column
> width settings in my gcm file and changed all of them to a new default set
> of widths, I presume the new defaults for Gnucash 4. These new default
> widths give a very wide *description* column and every other column is very
> narrow and especially for the *date*, *num* and *transfer* columns, too
> narrow to fit the text they contain. Again, I had to restore my backup gcm
> file to restore all my custom settings.
>
> So I guess since this will eventually be released as Gnucash version 4.xxx,
> we are to expect breaking changes from the current version? And users will
> be warned that they will be losing custom settings for column widths, saved
> reports, etc when they switch over?
>
>
> cheers,
>
> *Mark Sattolo*
> *mh.satto at gmail.com <mh.satto at gmail.com>*
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:45 AM Christopher Lam <christopher.lck at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Good luck. I've just verified that the old (3.x) balance-sheet date
> > defaults to "end-of-accounting-period", so, the first few lines shouldn't
> > be added.
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 15:41, mark sattolo <mh.satto at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks. I'll give it a try. I'll just update the source in my git folder
> >> for tag 3.903 and rebuild if I can't figure out how to modify the
> flatpak.
> >>
> >> *Mark Sattolo*
> >> *mh.satto at gmail.com <mh.satto at gmail.com>*
> >> *(613) 447-5385*
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:36 AM Christopher Lam <
> >> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Mark
> >>>
> >>> The reports for balance-sheet and income-statement were replaced with
> >>> the multicolumn ones. See the release notes. This was described in
> devel a
> >>> few weeks/months ago.
> >>>
> >>> Try the following patch which will reduce the discrepancy in the
> default
> >>> options between old and new. You may be able to modify the patch from
> >>> within the flatpak (but I'm not sure).
> >>>
> >>> modified gnucash/report/reports/standard/balsheet-pnl.scm
> >>> @@ -176,6 +176,9 @@ also show overall period profit & loss."))
> >>> (gnc:options-add-date-interval!
> >>> options gnc:pagename-general optname-startdate optname-enddate
> "c")
> >>>
> >>> + (gnc:option-set-default-value
> >>> + (gnc:lookup-option options gnc:pagename-general optname-enddate)
> >>> 'today)
> >>> +
> >>> (add-option
> >>> (gnc:make-multichoice-callback-option
> >>> gnc:pagename-general optname-period
> >>> @@ -1107,6 +1110,22 @@ also show overall period profit & loss."))
> >>> retained-earnings-fn))))
> >>> #:negate-amounts? #t)
> >>>
> >>> + (add-to-table multicol-table-right (_ "Liability and Equity")
> >>> + (append liability-accounts
> >>> + equity-accounts
> >>> + (if common-currency
> >>> + (list (vector (_ "Unrealized Gains")
> >>> + unrealized-gain-fn))
> >>> + '())
> >>> + (if (null? income-expense)
> >>> + '()
> >>> + (list (vector (_ "Retained
> Earnings")
> >>> +
> retained-earnings-fn))))
> >>> + #:negate-amounts? #t
> >>> + #:show-title? #f
> >>> + #:show-accounts? #f
> >>> + #:show-total? #t)
> >>> +
> >>> (if (and common-currency show-rates?)
> >>> (add-to-table multicol-table-right (_ "Exchange Rates")
> >>> asset-liability
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 15:18, mark sattolo <mh.satto at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am on Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon. I started using Gnc 3.903 yesterday
> >>>> morning. This is a version I built from git using tag '3.903' on June
> >>>> 2. It
> >>>> built without any problems, so I assumed it was good, but now it
> occurs
> >>>> to
> >>>> me that all these problems may just be due to a problem with my build.
> >>>> But
> >>>> I thought i would report now anyway just in case there are general
> >>>> issues
> >>>> with this version. I was actually going to try a flatpak build of
> 3.903,
> >>>> but I couldn't tell from any of the build names in Gnucash flatpak
> repo
> >>>> <https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/> which one is for version
> >>>> 3.903.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, everything seemed fine with 3.903 until I opened one of my
> saved
> >>>> reports. The appearance of the report was essentially unrecognizable.
> I
> >>>> only ever use my saved reports and their appearance hasn't changed for
> >>>> years, for any other Gnucash version (release or maint) until 3.903.
> So
> >>>> I
> >>>> went in to the report *options* to see if I could restore the layout
> to
> >>>> what i was used to:
> >>>>
> >>>> Commodities tab:
> >>>> there is a new Common Currency checkbox at the top, which was
> unchecked,
> >>>> and everything below was greyed out. But the two checkboxes 'Show
> >>>> original
> >>>> currency amount' and 'Show exchange rates' were both checked, even
> >>>> though
> >>>> in my original options, the previous two checkboxes on this tab: 'Show
> >>>> foreign currencies' and 'Show exchange rates' were both saved as
> >>>> *unchecked*.
> >>>> So, checking the Common Currency box to ungrey the other options and
> >>>> then
> >>>> unchecking the currency and exchange rate boxes, restored the layout
> of
> >>>> the
> >>>> report to basically what I was familiar with, as it no longer had long
> >>>> lists of commodities under essentially every sub-total.
> >>>>
> >>>> General tab:
> >>>> the report I was looking at, which I run often, is a balance sheet for
> >>>> all
> >>>> my accounts, for date 'Today'. The old options had a select list
> titled
> >>>> 'Balance sheet date' which was set to the relative date of Today. The
> >>>> new
> >>>> options have a Start Date and an End Date. The Start Date is greyed
> >>>> out, so
> >>>> I guess it is fairly easy to figure out that since it doesn't make
> >>>> sense to
> >>>> have two dates for a Balance, that the End Date is the active one.
> >>>> Unfortunately, the date shown in 'End Date' was not 'Today' but had
> been
> >>>> changed to 'End of accounting period'... So I changed it back to
> >>>> 'Today' to
> >>>> get the proper balance date as it had been before.
> >>>>
> >>>> Other problems:
> >>>> 1) There used to be a final total for the credit side of 'Total
> >>>> Liabilities
> >>>> and Equity', which would match the Total Assets line if the balance
> was
> >>>> done properly (sometimes it doesn't balance which means that I have
> >>>> created
> >>>> some new accounts in the meantime and have to update the saved
> config),
> >>>> but
> >>>> this line was missing and I tried every option I could find to restore
> >>>> it,
> >>>> but nothing worked. Which means to ensure your balance is actually
> >>>> working,
> >>>> you have to add on your own the Total Liability and Total Equity lines
> >>>> and
> >>>> compare this to Total Assets.
> >>>> So, just from looking, I could tell the actual totals were close, and
> I
> >>>> thought they would balance, but when I did the addition, the total of
> >>>> Liability + Equity matched the expected total from previous Gnucash
> >>>> versions, but the Total Assets was now reporting an amount different,
> by
> >>>> $0.03. Nothing I did to update the included accounts would resolve
> this
> >>>> difference. I'm pretty sure I don't have a renegade asset account
> hidden
> >>>> somewhere with $0.03 in it... Differences of this magnitude I find are
> >>>> usually rounding errors. But not sure what this is or where it is
> coming
> >>>> from.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) When I saw the changes in the report options of version 3.903, I
> made
> >>>> sure that I *didn't* press the 'Save Config' button so it wouldn't
> >>>> overwrite my existing config for this report. Later, I opened the old
> >>>> 3.10
> >>>> released version so I could see exactly how the options were set up in
> >>>> the
> >>>> previous Gnucash, and when I opened the saved report 'Balance Today',
> >>>> all
> >>>> the options had been changed to the incorrect ones that I had seen
> with
> >>>> version 3.903, e.g. the date was changed from Today to 'End of
> >>>> accounting
> >>>> period', the boxes for currency and exchange rates were now checked,
> >>>> etc.
> >>>> And in fact the file 'saved-reports-2.8' had been completely
> >>>> overwritten by
> >>>> v3.903 and all my dozens of saved reports now had incorrect settings.
> >>>> Maybe
> >>>> this is the expected behavior? But it was certainly unexpected to
> me...
> >>>> I
> >>>> had to go into my Timeshift and get the most recent backup of
> >>>> 'saved-reports-2.8' to restore all my settings.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope all this is clear, and helpful. Let me know if you have any
> >>>> questions.
> >>>>
> >>>> *Mark Sattolo*
> >>>> *mh.satto at gmail.com <mh.satto at gmail.com>*
> >>>> *(613) 447-5385*
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 3:05 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > On Jun 1, 2020, at 11:51 AM, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> wrote:
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 3.903, the first
> >>>> testing
> >>>> > release for what will soon be GnuCash 4.0.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > A further note for developers: This release begins Feature Freeze,
> >>>> please
> >>>> > commit only bug fix changes until we release 4.0.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > String freeze is in two weeks, so if you have any commits that will
> >>>> > require new or changed translatable strings get them in ASAP!
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Regards,
> >>>> > John Ralls
> >>>> >
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