saving to floppy
Ray Salemink
raysalemink at hotmail.com
Sun Apr 13 16:16:11 CDT 2003
Tim:
I tried urpmi -v --test --no-deps, it didn't work. So, I'll just stay with
1.8.1 and hunt around a bit. NOt really any real need right now to upgrade,
the present version works great
Ray Salemink
raysalemink at hotmail.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: Tim Meador <tmeador at kc.rr.com>
To: Ray Salemink <raysalemink at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: saving to floppy
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 18:32:55 -0500
Ray,
Oh, man. GnuCash if a great app, but one of the toughest Linux apps
to install or upgrade properly. At this point, since you've gotten
everything imported into GunCash 1.8.1 correctly, unless you really
need the features of 1.8.2 I'd just stay with 1.8.1. I'm still
running 1.6.5 quite happily.
Similar things happen with Windoze, where installing on thing breaks
another, etc. At least with Linux, you can test things and it will tell
you something about what's wrong instead of just popping up an error
message with no info or doing the install and stupidly breaking stuff.
But if you really must upgrade...
> "libgnucash0 >= 1.8.2-1mdk is needed by gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk"
This doesn't really make sense, since you're installing 1.8.2-1mdk,
the package that at least seems like it should have the file it's
asking for. A Catch 22? It could be an error, or...?
You have some other things you can try...I'm assuming here you don't
already have 1.8.1 installed...remember,
#rpm -ivh (package)
is for installing a new package,
#urpmi -v (package)
is for upgrading an existing one.
1. Try this:
#rpm -ivh --test --nodeps gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk.i586.rpm (or whatever the
exact pacakge name is).
This will ingore dependencies. It seems you only have the one, and
it sounds like it should be satisfied by the 1.8.2 package, so like I
said, this could be a mistake that can be ignored.
It still checks for conflicts with other files/packages, so it if that
test is ok, you should be able to do the install without breaking
anything else on your system, but GnuCash may not work. You'll just
have to try to see.
2. Install 1.8.1, then upgrade to 1.8.2 with:
#urpmi -v --test gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk.i586.rpm
If it passes --test, you should be ok.
3. Try to satisfy the dependency yourself with another package. This
can get very tricky, time consuming and even frustrating, however. I
don't recommend it until you're more comfortable with Linux.
There are sites where you can search for and download rpms. This is
one of my favorites:
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/index.html.
There are others, some dedicated mainly to Mandrake like Penguin
Liberation Front, Texstar, etc. You can Google your way around to a
bunch of rpm download sites.
Anyway, if you want to try it, do a search for the libgnucash0 file
and see what comes up. Be sure to download a package with a version
late enough for your purposes, and try and stick to Mandrake rpms (or
whatever distro you're using at the time).
Get back to me if you have more questions.
* Ray Salemink <raysalemink at hotmail.com> [2003-04-12 17:33]:
> I tried the rpm -ivh --test on GnuCash 1.8.2-1mdk, got this result.
> "libgnucash0 >= 1.8.2-1mdk is needed by gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk" Can't find
this
> file, even at the cooker you gave me.
> Oh well. I'll keep looking.
>
> Ray Salemink
> raysaleminkK at hotmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Tim Meador <tmeador at kc.rr.com>
> To: Ray Salemink <raysalemink at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: saving to floppy
> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:59:03 -0500
>
> Ray,
>
> Maybe I can help a little, I've used Mandrake for a couple of years.
> Overall, I think the best thing to do if you need to run the 1.8 version
> is to install not 1.8.1 which has broken QIF, but 1.8.2, which has QIF
fixed
> so that it should work fine like in 1.6. You can get a rpm from Mandrake
> Cooker here:
>
>
ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk.i586.rpm
>
> Download and save the file to a handy place, say /home/Ray/temp or
> /home/Ray/download/GnuCash, whatever.
>
> Now open a terminal and su to root (become root) by typing "su" at your
user
> prompt (sorry if you know this part, but I'm just making sure):
>
> [ray at ray ray]$ su
>
> Hit enter, it will answer "password:". Type your root password and hit
> enter:
>
> password:rootpassword
>
> This will change the prompt to "#", so you will see something like this:
>
> [root at ray ray]#
>
> Now change to the directory you saved the GnuCash rpm to:
>
> [root at ray ray]# cd /home/ray/temp (or wherever)
>
> You should get:
>
> [root at ray temp]#
>
> Now to install. Before I go into that I should warn you that Cooker rpms
> are
> just a little risky as they are development versions, but it should
install
> on
> 9.1 fine. To make sure, do a test install first (doesn't actually do
> anything, just checks dependencies and conflicts). From # type:
>
> #rpm -ivh --test gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk.i586.rpm
>
> If your get no errors, you're good to go. Remove the "--test" and
> install the rpm. If you get messages about missing dependencies, etc.,
you
> could also try installing 1.8.1 first, letting the Mandrake installer
> handle that stuff, and then upgrading to 1.8.2 by using urpmi as in:
>
> #urpmi -v gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk.i586.rpm
>
> You can, of course, add the "--test" parameter to that to test it out
> first. Mandrake's urpmi is a terrific tool, but if possible I'd think a
> clean
> install of 1.8.2 would be preferable.
>
> I don't know if you can install 1.6.7 from 9.0 on 9.1. My guess would be
> no, but that's strictly a guess.
> To try, find the 1.6.7 rpm on your Mandrake discs and try installing it
as
> described above.
>
> Any more questions about manually installing rpms might be answered by
> $man rpm or $man urpmi. It's easy once you get the hang of it.
>
> Just a hint: When you install make /home a seperate partition. Then
when
> you
> reinstall, just don't reformat the /home partition and your personal
> settings
> and stuff are saved, and picked right up by the new install.
>
> As for using the installer (actually DiskDrake) to resize and format part
of
> your main NTFS drive to Linux...well, I haven't done it 'cause it doesn't
> apply to me, but I haven't heard of any problems, and I've never had any
> trouble on FAT32 disks. Mandrake's the only distro that will do NTFS and
> it's
> a new feature in DisDrake so I don't really blame you for being a little
> scared to try it. I'd do backups first...
>
> Hope this helps...I know what it was like moving to Linux...but it's
> well worth it!
>
> * Ray Salemink <raysalemink at hotmail.com> [2003-04-12 10:36]:
> > I so appreciate the quick response you give. I will try to explain more
> > fully.
> >
> > I had installed MDK 9.1, with the updated Mozilla, because the previous
> one
> > in MDK9 had some problems with entering user names on some sites.I also
> > liked the new support MDK 9.1 has for my video card, a GeForce MX420.
But
> > the problem with the QIFs import showed up with GnuCash 1.8.1. So I
> > reinstalled MDK 9, with GnuCash 1.6.7, and QIF import was PERFECT!
(this
> is
> > how newbies do things, because we don't know a lot yet). I now have
> things
> > just the way I want them in GnuCash with the accounts.
> >
> > I see that my file for the present Gnucash (1.6.7) is 1.5 MG, so it
won't
> > fit on the floppy.
> >
> > So, what I thought I could save the present file from 1.6.7 to floppy,
> > reinstall MDK 9.1, and open that file in GnuCash 1.8.1. INstalling MDK
> 9.1
> > means erasing my spare HD and starting all over, which is the one I am
> > using to try out Linux. I am still somewhat "chicken" to use my main HD
> > which has XP on it. Otherwise, I would install MDK 9.1 on it, and
figure
> > out how to access the 1.6.7 file on the other HD.
> >
> > I am still not very knowledeable with using Linux. Don't know if
putting
> it
> > on the main drive will screw up the MBR, or whatever else could happen.
> > (Can you spell "yellow streak?"). I also thought about trying MDK 9.1's
> > supposed ability to repartition XP's NTFS, but chicken again.
> >
> > So I thought I had two options.
> > 1) Backup the file I now have in 1.6.7 in MDK 9 to floppy. Install MDK
> 9.1,
> > and open the file saved on flopy in 1.8.1.
> >
> > OR 2)Install 1.6.7 from the MDK 9 CDs on MDK 9.1, open the file, save
it,
> > uninstall 1.6.7, and install 1.8.1 and open the file. But I don't know
> how
> > to install a package from one version into another one.
> >
> > Sorry for the length, and I appreciate your patience.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: Derek Atkins <warlord at MIT.EDU>
> > To: "Ray Salemink" <raysalemink at hotmail.com>
> > CC: gnucash-user at lsits.gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: saving to floppy
> > Date: 12 Apr 2003 10:46:26 -0400
> >
> > "Ray Salemink" <raysalemink at hotmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > If the data file has the extension, .xac, then yes I did. And as far
> > > as I know, it was not compressed, i'm not even sure how to do that. I
> > > tried it two ways, by right clicking on the file in Konquerer and
> > > moving the file to disc, and using a command line to "cp" the file to
> > > floppy. Both times, the file was there on the floppy. This floppy was
> > > formatted by Windows ME, by the way.
> >
> > How large is your data file? Also note that floppies are notoriously
> > buggy and bit-rotting.
> >
> > > I also tried clicking "File," then "Save as" and named it with my
> > > initials. Then, I closed and reopened GnuCash, tried to open that
> > > file, and it said it couldn't read it because it needed a newer
> > > version of GnuCash.
> >
> > That's VERY strange, indeed. You do File -> Save As, select some
> > file, kill gnucash, restart gnucash, try to load the newly-saved
> > file and it doesn't load it properly?!?!? Is this in 1.6 or 1.8?
> >
> > > SEcond question: THere is a long list of files that are saved in the
> > > home directory with .xac and .log as extensions. CAn i delete
previous
> > > ones? I see that in the code there is a date.
> >
> > Yep, you can delete any .log file and any backup .xac file. Indeed,
> > gnucash-1.8 will auto-delete the backup files after 30 days (you can
> > set this to a shorter date if you wish).
> >
> > > What I was trying to do was install GnuCash 1.6.7, read the QIFs in,
> > > save it to floppy, then remove 1.6.7, and install 1.8.1, and read the
> > > saved data file.
> >
> > Sure, but why do you need to save to a floppy to do this? Just
> > replace gnucash and all will be happy.
> >
> > > Although, I really don't have a reason for doing this. I simply am
> > > thrilled with 1.6.7, and really don't need the scheduler, because you
> > > have done a wonderful job of making hte "duplicate" button work so
> > > well. It' almost better than a scheduler.
> >
> > Gnucash 1.8 has a LOT of bugs fixed, and you wont get any support from
> > the developers if you run into a problem on 1.6. That alone should be
> > a reason to upgrade.
> >
> > > THanks again for your help
> > >
> > >
> > > Ray Salemink
> > > raysalemink at hotmail.com
> >
> > -derek
> >
> > --
> > Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory
> > Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB)
> > URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/ PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH
> > warlord at MIT.EDU PGP key available
> >
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