Giving up on Gnucash
linux at codehelp.co.uk
Sat Apr 23 14:32:25 EDT 2005
On Saturday 23 April 2005 5:47 pm, Stephen Fisher wrote:
Please send to the list, not to ME!
> Thanks Neil:
> > So your original question doesn't stand. GnuCash is included in OSX
> > because
> > OSX includes the option of using Fink which includes GnuCash in it's
> > main
> > package archive. True, it is an immense download from a base OSX
> > system to
> > install X11, Fink and then GnuCash. That won't change. What you should
> > notice
> > is that upgrading an existing installation is far simpler. Optional
> > packages
> > are still deemed to be included in the distro, GnuCash is optional in
> > all
> > distributions AFAIK. It's hardly as essential as bash or perl.
> My comparison and where I'd like to see gnucash get to on OSX/X11 is
> something like openoffice.
Careful there, this is not how you install C applications on OSX UNLESS you
have a licence from Apple.
> Getting X11 up and running is easy. It's on
> the OSX disks you install it and done. With openoffice, you download a
> .dmg file, run the OSX type installer, click through a few buttons and
That's because of Java. You can't compare OOo with any other application, Mac
or GNU, only with other Java apps and there aren't that many.
There are two ways to install a non-Java graphical program on OSX.
1. You buy a licence from Apple and agree to their prohibitive terms to allow
you to create a .dmg file that can be downloaded and installed just like
iTunes. This is even harder than porting to Gnome2 - it's a completely new
GUI. (We are not going down that road!)
2. You go via Fink and add a large amount of code that implements the GNU
versions of the GUI.
Fink doesn't do .dmg - it can't be done without a slice of code from Apple.
Fink does .deb which are Debian package archives and use Debian dependency
> Mysql, php, phpmyadmin and alot of other open source projects
> feature similar simple installs.
Those would be console programs, they are simpler because they don't have to
work with X11.
Compare with Anjuta, Bluefish, Gimp or Gedit - not with mysql, OOo or other
Of course, now that you have GnuCash installed, all the others will install
easily because they use the same libraries.
> My initial experience with gnucash:
> lots of dependency problems when attempting fink install gnucash to a
> clean X11 build.
Of course you will, X11 includes no Gnome libraries, let alone Gnome2.
> In the end had to go through and install the
> dependencies in specific order, piecemeal per the faq. Did not have
> this problem with any other fink install.
Guess what, the other installs used the libraries that GnuCash required.
Naturally, they don't ask for them again.
> Users should not have to
> consult a faq to install the software.
There are differences because of the reliance on Gnome1.4 which will disappear
with G2 but there will still remain a large amount of code that needs to be
installed in a specific order over a clean OSX/X11 install.
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