Password Feature

Yawar Amin yawar.amin at gmail.com
Mon Feb 16 14:42:21 EST 2009


One thing that just occurred to me is that if someone steals your laptop,
they can pop in a Linux live CD, mount your Windows drive, and access all
your data, no need for passwords. So if theft is a fear, you do need
something like TrueCrypt for security.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Richard Talley <rich.talley at gmail.com>wrote:

> A recent conversation with a family member:
>
> "I understand you're really getting into on-line banking and bill paying."
>
>    "Yeah, I hate writing checks."
>
> "Are you letting Firefox remember all your passwords?"
>
>    "Yes, it's great!"
>
> "Did you set a master password in Firefox?"
>
>    "No. What's that?"
>
> "Well, what if a burglar steals your laptop. Won't they be able to get
> into all your bank accounts?"
>
>    "Oh. I didn't think of that."
>
> Lesson: end-user education never ends.
>
> The reason many people don't password protect their computers is that
> they don't know any better. We grew up locking our houses and cars,
> but not our computers (an idea that didn't even exist in the Windows
> over DOS days).
>
> -- Rich
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com>
> wrote:
> > At Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:24:12 -0500 Ray Little <ray at tangosystems.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> When I'm really concerned about security I don't trust Windows'
> >> password.  I use TrueCrypt to encrypt the volumes where my data is
> >> located.  Learned the value of this when I found the techs at Best Buy
> >> nosing around my PC.
> >>
> >> I guess I'm lazier than most.  But at any rate I'm on my computers too
> >> many hours a day and don't want to have to log back in every time I step
> >> away for a moment and don't come back as anticipated.  It's just a
> >> convenience thing.  I used to use jGnash which had this feature and I
> >> got used to it.
> >
> > Here is a thought question:
> >
> > Do you lock your car and/or take the key out of the ignition every time
> > you step away from your car?  Even if it is to just 'run in and grab a
> > quart of milk' at a convience store?  Why (or Why not)?
> >
> > Is your computer data any more (or less) important than your car?
> >
> > And yes, even if you lock your car and take the keys with you a truly
> > determined theif can still steal your car (and the same is probably
> > true with your computer data).  Still, locking the car / logging out,
> > is going to be a perfectly effective protection from 'casual'
> > 'theft'/snooping (eg curious grandkids, random 'guests', etc.).
> > Getting into the 'habit' of logging out (OR using a passworded
> > screensaver) is a GOOD thing.  Why more people don't practice it is
> > unknown to me.
> >
> >>
> >> Ray
> >>
> >> Robert Heller wrote:
> >> > At Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:18:43 -0500 Ray Little <ray at rlla.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I disagree with you on the need for a password feature.  First, not
> >> >> everyone uses Linux (it would be great if they did but that's another
> >> >> argument).
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > *EVERY* modern O/S has a passworded login feature.  This includes all
> >> > NT-based MS-Windows O/Ss (Win2K, WinXP, WinVista) and MacOSX.  Only
> >> > MS-DOS based MS-Windows (Win 3.11, Win9x, WinME) and Classic MacOS (<=
> >> > System 9) don't.  Does anyone seriously use these old O/Ss any more?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> In your argument against a built-in password feature you mention how
> >> >> you're not sure you could do it well.  However, I'm not under attack
> by
> >> >> the Russians (or the Chinese).  I would like a much smaller measure
> of
> >> >> protection.  I'm using a WinXP system in my office and it would be
> nice
> >> >> to have a little something to keep the curious grandkids or guests at
> >> >> bay when I step away from the computer.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > All you need to do is create a proper passworded account under WinXP.
> >> > And don't tell the grandkids or guests what that password is.  Create
> a
> >> > *separate* account for the grandkids and/or guests.  I know WinXP can
> >> > do this -- I seen it.  *I* don't know why MS-Windows users don't make
> >> > use of this feature.  Is it really that hard to set up?  Or is it just
> >> > that Microsoft (in their infinite wisdom?) make it *too* easy NOT to
> >> > need to use it?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Ray
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> >>
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