Password Feature
Ross Burgess
ross at foxearth.demon.co.uk
Tue Feb 17 12:53:34 EST 2009
I'm a recent convert to GnuCash from Microsoft Money, and it was the
password protection feature on Money that finally drove me to change.
I'd been using Money happily on Windows XP for quite a few years, but when I
installed it on Vista it suddenly started demanding a password even though I
had never used one. I totally failed to overcome this problem, but did find
a number of comments on the web about the difficulties caused by the
password feature in various versions of Money. I decided that even if I
could somehow overcome the problem (which incidentally didn't arise with new
Money files created on the Vista machine) I was not prepared to trust my
financial records to a system that could lock me out in this way, so I
installed GnuCash and copied all the data over on qif files from my old PC
(a very laborious process, as I'd got lots of accounts, and Money generates
one qif file per account).
So if GnuCash ever does introduce passwords (which seems unlikely) I'd be
looking to move to a different product.
Ross
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Password Feature (Berni Elbourn)
2. Re: Password Feature (Yawar Amin)
3. Re: Password Feature (Adam Funk)
4. Re: Trouble in installing Gnucash on Mac OS 15.6 Intel
(Xavier Lafon)
5. Account specification of multiple transactions during/after
import (Pascal Wolkotte)
6. UK Unit Trust Prices (Peter Jones)
7. Re: UK Unit Trust Prices (David Reiser)
8. US Equivalent of Canadian GIFI? (Don Quixote de la Mancha)
9. UK Unit Trust Prices (Peter Jones)
10. Re: Password Feature (Manfred Usselmann)
11. Re: Account specification of multiple transactions
during/after import (Derek Atkins)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:08:09 +0000
From: Berni Elbourn <berni at elbournb.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Password Feature
Cc: Users Gnucash <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Message-ID: <49999D79.9050008 at elbournb.fsnet.co.uk>
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Richard Talley wrote:
> "Well, what if a burglar steals your laptop. Won't they be able to get
> into all your bank accounts?"
>
> "Oh. I didn't think of that."
>
> Lesson: end-user education never ends.
>
> The reason many people don't password protect their computers is that
> they don't know any better. We grew up locking our houses and cars,
> but not our computers (an idea that didn't even exist in the Windows
> over DOS days).
big grin time:
....thanks to Microsoft I can see a day when we'll just have to enforce
a computer driving test before anyone is allowed to sit at a keyboard.
No aspersions intended on anyone here.
L plates anyone?
Berni
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:42:21 -0500
From: Yawar Amin <yawar.amin at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Password Feature
To: Users Gnucash <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
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One thing that just occurred to me is that if someone steals your laptop,
they can pop in a Linux live CD, mount your Windows drive, and access all
your data, no need for passwords. So if theft is a fear, you do need
something like TrueCrypt for security.
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Richard Talley
<rich.talley at gmail.com>wrote:
> A recent conversation with a family member:
>
> "I understand you're really getting into on-line banking and bill paying."
>
> "Yeah, I hate writing checks."
>
> "Are you letting Firefox remember all your passwords?"
>
> "Yes, it's great!"
>
> "Did you set a master password in Firefox?"
>
> "No. What's that?"
>
> "Well, what if a burglar steals your laptop. Won't they be able to get
> into all your bank accounts?"
>
> "Oh. I didn't think of that."
>
> Lesson: end-user education never ends.
>
> The reason many people don't password protect their computers is that
> they don't know any better. We grew up locking our houses and cars,
> but not our computers (an idea that didn't even exist in the Windows
> over DOS days).
>
> -- Rich
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com>
> wrote:
> > At Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:24:12 -0500 Ray Little <ray at tangosystems.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> When I'm really concerned about security I don't trust Windows'
> >> password. I use TrueCrypt to encrypt the volumes where my data is
> >> located. Learned the value of this when I found the techs at Best Buy
> >> nosing around my PC.
> >>
> >> I guess I'm lazier than most. But at any rate I'm on my computers too
> >> many hours a day and don't want to have to log back in every time I
step
> >> away for a moment and don't come back as anticipated. It's just a
> >> convenience thing. I used to use jGnash which had this feature and I
> >> got used to it.
> >
> > Here is a thought question:
> >
> > Do you lock your car and/or take the key out of the ignition every time
> > you step away from your car? Even if it is to just 'run in and grab a
> > quart of milk' at a convience store? Why (or Why not)?
> >
> > Is your computer data any more (or less) important than your car?
> >
> > And yes, even if you lock your car and take the keys with you a truly
> > determined theif can still steal your car (and the same is probably
> > true with your computer data). Still, locking the car / logging out,
> > is going to be a perfectly effective protection from 'casual'
> > 'theft'/snooping (eg curious grandkids, random 'guests', etc.).
> > Getting into the 'habit' of logging out (OR using a passworded
> > screensaver) is a GOOD thing. Why more people don't practice it is
> > unknown to me.
> >
> >>
> >> Ray
> >>
> >> Robert Heller wrote:
> >> > At Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:18:43 -0500 Ray Little <ray at rlla.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I disagree with you on the need for a password feature. First, not
> >> >> everyone uses Linux (it would be great if they did but that's
another
> >> >> argument).
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > *EVERY* modern O/S has a passworded login feature. This includes all
> >> > NT-based MS-Windows O/Ss (Win2K, WinXP, WinVista) and MacOSX. Only
> >> > MS-DOS based MS-Windows (Win 3.11, Win9x, WinME) and Classic MacOS
(<=
> >> > System 9) don't. Does anyone seriously use these old O/Ss any more?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> In your argument against a built-in password feature you mention how
> >> >> you're not sure you could do it well. However, I'm not under attack
> by
> >> >> the Russians (or the Chinese). I would like a much smaller measure
> of
> >> >> protection. I'm using a WinXP system in my office and it would be
> nice
> >> >> to have a little something to keep the curious grandkids or guests
at
> >> >> bay when I step away from the computer.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > All you need to do is create a proper passworded account under WinXP.
> >> > And don't tell the grandkids or guests what that password is. Create
> a
> >> > *separate* account for the grandkids and/or guests. I know WinXP can
> >> > do this -- I seen it. *I* don't know why MS-Windows users don't make
> >> > use of this feature. Is it really that hard to set up? Or is it
just
> >> > that Microsoft (in their infinite wisdom?) make it *too* easy NOT to
> >> > need to use it?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Ray
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:44:27 +0000
From: Adam Funk <a24061 at ducksburg.com>
Subject: Re: Password Feature
To: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
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On 2009-02-16, Richard Talley wrote:
> The reason many people don't password protect their computers is that
> they don't know any better. We grew up locking our houses and cars,
> but not our computers (an idea that didn't even exist in the Windows
> over DOS days).
Sure it did. You kept your data floppies (1.44 MB if you were lucky)
somewhere safe when you weren't using them.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:37:42 +0100
From: Xavier Lafon <xavier.lafon at laposte.net>
Subject: Re: Trouble in installing Gnucash on Mac OS 15.6 Intel
To: Dave Reiser <dbreiser at earthlink.net>
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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<84d95a3c0902161037h5624348fkafd46d094d90048 at mail.gmail.com>
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Thank you for your help !
It's fine
Xavier
2009/2/13 Dave Reiser <dbreiser at earthlink.net>
>
>
> Xavier Lafon wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I am new with Mac (OS 15.6, Intel) and have some trouble installing
>> Gnucash.
>>
>> I have X11 installed yet
>> I installed Fink 0.9.0 (from http://www.finkproject.org/download/)
>> and checked new packages by 'fink scanpackages; fink index'
>>
>> Then I installed Gnucash by :
>> sudo apt-get install gnucash
>>
>
> The command you want is
>
> fink install gnucash2
>
> There isn't a binary available for 2.2.x of gnucash available in fink yet
> (don't hold your breath waiting for one, either), so apt-get won't work
for
> the current version. And version 1.8.12 (associated with the fink package
> gnucash) is extremely old and frequently doesn't work on Intel macs.
>
>
>> and when I launch gnucash from an X11 term, I get :
>> bash-3.2$ gnucash
>> Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1
>>
>
> Dave
> --
> David Reiser
> dbreiser at earthlink.net
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:03:23 +0100
From: Pascal Wolkotte <p.t.wolkotte at gmail.com>
Subject: Account specification of multiple transactions during/after
import
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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Hi,
I am a newbie on this mailinglist and I just started to work with
gnucash. I have not been able to solve the following situation.
>From my bank account I obtained all the transactions of a few years
into a csv file. I have found a tool that converts it to either QIF or
OFX, such that I can import it into gnucash. That works!
However, all transactions are in "imbalance" after the import and per
transaction I have to specify a specific expense or income account.
This is quite a lot of work. I would like to speed this up.
Furthermore, I would like to automate this for future imports for all
known transactions, for example my monthly salary. Does anybody have
tips how to achieve this?
Can I, for example:
- specify the account/category in OFX, or
- select multiple transactions and specify a single expense or income
account, or
- does gnucash support regular expresions that can match the
transaction's descriptions or other transaction details
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Pascal Wolkotte
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:46:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Peter Jones <jonesypeter at hotmail.com>
Subject: UK Unit Trust Prices
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Message-ID: <22047288.post at talk.nabble.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello,
I am just getting started with GNU Cash, and am using 2.2.6 (Installed with
Ubuntu 8.10), and have installed the finance extension.
I have some M&G Unit Trusts and have found the code and run:
gnc-fq-dump yahoo_europe GB0030938707GBP
and get:
Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
symbol: GB0030938707GBP <=== required
date: 00/00/2000 <=== required
currency: ** missing ** <=== required
last: 126.46 <=\
nav: <=== one of these
price: 126.46 <=/
timezone: <=== optional
** This stock quote cannot be used by gnucash!!
Is there anyway I can get access UK M&G Unit Trusts from GNU Cash?
I can get share prices such as LLOY.L from Yahoo Europe without any
problems.
Many Thanks
Peter Jones
Bognor Regis
UK
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:22:35 -0500
From: David Reiser <dbreiser at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: UK Unit Trust Prices
To: Peter Jones <jonesypeter at hotmail.com>
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Message-ID: <53E7C21A-6AE6-44C4-AA24-3D29812B5DF0 at earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
If you're willing to modify Finance::Quote, yes. See my patch on the
mailing list yesterday. There is some chance that other quotes may be
broken, but I'm using the patched version for US quotes and occasional
tests for UK trusts/funds. You need a fix for both the date problem
and pence vs pounds (both are included in the patch).
$gnc-fq-dump yahoo_europe GB0030938707GBP
Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
symbol: GB0030938707GBP <=== required
date: 02/13/2009 <=== required
currency: GBP <=== required
last: 1.2646 <=\
nav: <=== one of these
price: 1.2646 <=/
timezone: <=== optional
The official status is that finance quote doesn't yet support for
quotes for funds, just stocks.
Dave
On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Peter Jones wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am just getting started with GNU Cash, and am using 2.2.6
> (Installed with
> Ubuntu 8.10), and have installed the finance extension.
>
> I have some M&G Unit Trusts and have found the code and run:
>
> gnc-fq-dump yahoo_europe GB0030938707GBP
>
> and get:
> Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
> symbol: GB0030938707GBP <=== required
> date: 00/00/2000 <=== required
> currency: ** missing ** <=== required
> last: 126.46 <=\
> nav: <=== one of these
> price: 126.46 <=/
> timezone: <=== optional
>
> ** This stock quote cannot be used by gnucash!!
>
> Is there anyway I can get access UK M&G Unit Trusts from GNU Cash?
>
> I can get share prices such as LLOY.L from Yahoo Europe without any
> problems.
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Peter Jones
> Bognor Regis
> UK
> --
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:10:28 -0800
From: Don Quixote de la Mancha <quixote at dulcineatech.com>
Subject: US Equivalent of Canadian GIFI?
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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I'm setting up the GnuCash accounts for my new business, and would
like to know if there are any kind of standard account numbers for use
when filing United States and California taxes.
Canada Revenue Agency publishes the General Index of Financial
Information (GIFI), which has the official numeric designations for
Canadian corporations to use on their financial statements:
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/rc4088/README.html
For example, GIFI item 1000 is Cash and deposits, 1002 is Deposits in
Canadian banks in Canadian currency, and 1003 is Deposits in Canadian
banks in foreign currency.
If the US has any kind of equivalent to the GIFI codes, I think I
should use them, but Google doesn't turn up anything.
Thanks!
Don Quixote
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:30:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Peter Jones <jonesypeter at hotmail.com>
Subject: UK Unit Trust Prices
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Message-ID: <22047288.post at talk.nabble.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello,
I am just getting started with GNU Cash, and am using 2.2.6 (Installed with
Ubuntu 8.10), and have installed the finance extension.
I have some M&G Unit Trusts and have found the code and run:
gnc-fq-dump yahoo_europe GB0030938707GBP
and get:
Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
symbol: GB0030938707GBP <=== required
date: 00/00/2000 <=== required
currency: ** missing ** <=== required
last: 126.46 <=\
nav: <=== one of these
price: 126.46 <=/
timezone: <=== optional
** This stock quote cannot be used by gnucash!!
Is there anyway I can get access UK M&G Unit Trusts from GNU Cash?
I can get share prices such as LLOY.L from Yahoo Europe without any
problems.
Many Thanks
Peter Jones
Bognor Regis
UK
--
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:12:23 +0100
From: Manfred Usselmann <usselmann.m at icg-online.de>
Subject: Re: Password Feature
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Message-ID: <20090216211223.4ed1baea.usselmann.m at icg-online.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:04:25 -0500
Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> wrote:
> Getting into the 'habit' of logging out (OR using a passworded
> screensaver) is a GOOD thing.
Instead of logging out you, can just just lock your system. This is
much more convenient, because it keeps all your open programs running
and you can continue immediately when you're back.
Manfred
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:46:23 -0500
From: Derek Atkins <warlord at MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Account specification of multiple transactions
during/after import
To: Pascal Wolkotte <p.t.wolkotte at gmail.com>
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Message-ID: <sjmk57prrqo.fsf at pgpdev.ihtfp.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Pascal Wolkotte <p.t.wolkotte at gmail.com> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I am a newbie on this mailinglist and I just started to work with
> gnucash. I have not been able to solve the following situation.
>
>>From my bank account I obtained all the transactions of a few years
> into a csv file. I have found a tool that converts it to either QIF or
> OFX, such that I can import it into gnucash. That works!
>
> However, all transactions are in "imbalance" after the import and per
> transaction I have to specify a specific expense or income account.
> This is quite a lot of work. I would like to speed this up.
> Furthermore, I would like to automate this for future imports for all
> known transactions, for example my monthly salary. Does anybody have
> tips how to achieve this?
During the import map the transactions to the proper Income/Expense
accounts.
> Can I, for example:
> - specify the account/category in OFX, or
Not in OFX (but you can in QIF)
> - select multiple transactions and specify a single expense or income
> account, or
During import, yes. But not from the register.
> - does gnucash support regular expresions that can match the
> transaction's descriptions or other transaction details
No.
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Pascal Wolkotte
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
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