Report customization nightmare
turgon at mike-leone.com
Wed Jun 30 12:56:16 EDT 2010
On 6/30/2010 12:38 PM, Derek Atkins had this to say:
> Mike Leone<turgon at mike-leone.com> writes:
>> On 6/29/2010 3:41 PM, Derek Atkins had this to say:
>>> Mike Leone<turgon at mike-leone.com> writes:
>>> Opinions are in high supply around here. Solutions, not so much. We
>>> have what we have, for better or for worse. Until someone comes up with
>>> a new solution, or offers to provide the effort to create a new
>>> solution, we're kinda stuck with what we have. We ARE making
>>> incremental improvements (e-guile, webkit/css) but a full-on
>>> report-system replacement is a large piece of work. Are YOU going to do
>> Not being a programmer ... no, I'm not. :-) As I said, I don't have a
>> better solution. But that does not invalidate my (and just about every
>> one else's, apparently) claim that what we have is not all that
>> useful, for a (large?) segment of current users.
> Really? I'd like to see a list of necessary reports that GnuCash
> doesn't already have. As a non-programmer you should be able to help by
> coming up with the set of requirements for included-reports.
I have no idea; I don't have a need for reports like that. But I have
seen any number of emails on the list about "How do I customize this,
that, or the other report". Perhaps GnuCash has all the reports
necessary that the average user needs; the emails indicate that a
noticeable number are not finding the reports they need. Or how to
re-fashion the existing reports, the way they want them.
> You seem to be implying that absolutely anyone needs to be able to
> create a report, and I HIGHLY disagree with that!
No, I am saying that when you do need (or even just want) to do it, it
is not as straightforward as it could, and probably should, be. It
wasn't for me, and I have only a very slight desire (not even need) for
a report that only shows me what I want it to show me.
> My point remains, tho, that the average user should not have to create a
> custom report.
A GnuCash custom report would also be a customized version of an
existing report. Which - as you may have seen in my email exchanges
about getting a report that listed only expenses (and not income, or
P&L) - can be problematical to get.
> GnuCash should provide the reports that they need (at
> least in SOME form -- it may not be 100% what they need, but as per your
> previous example I don't care if the report has two lines that you don't
> want -- you can learn to ignore them).
I have learned how to ignore it; for me, it's a non-issue, as I only use
it for limited, personal finance matters. If I had to hand it in to my
boss or as an official document to an auditor or a legal party, that
would be a different story, don't you think? "Oh, just ignore the parts
that don't apply to you" is not how I want to represent myself in such a
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