reports without decimals?

Sat Aug 25 08:51:32 EDT 2012

I agree totally with being able to use non-ISO currencies, and asked about
it some time ago.  Unfortunately, it didn't seem likely to happen at that
time.  I don't remember whether I got no response or a negative response at
that time, but while Skymiles are a good example and can be used to purchase
something, so are points on credit cards and virtual currencies (I have
never owned a linden dollar in my life, but it makes the news when large
quantities of them get stolen in a hack, and police are even sometimes
involved, and my post was about bitcoins, which could be equally popular in
the future, but have 8 decimal places [also unsupported] and could be
programmed to have more in the future).

Regarding using an alternate currency, I like the idea, but I don't think it
would solve the problem, because the user wants a report that meets certain
requirements, and I imagine having the wrong currency denominator would also
prevent it from meeting those requirements, so an export+edit would still be
necessary.  A custom currency could presumably resolve this as well.  This
is just my tw ocents and I suppose the OP has a much more compelling case
for posting a change request to the bug system, but I don't even know how
that is done, and I doubt the OP does either.

Dustin

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Subject: Re: reports without decimals?

On 2012-08-24, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com> wrote:
>
> I am implying that.  The currency does have "cents".  Please see David 
> T's response from 30 minutes before yours for a more detailed answer.

David T's reply actually came hours after I sent my post, but there was a
substantial lag in the distribution.  Apparently this list is moderated.

> To sumerize, the currency has historically had cents and therefore 
> GnuCash must keep them in order for older accounts to balance.  To 
> change this within GnuCash would require changing the currency within 
> GnuCash, but the ISO list hasn't been updated yet.

The real problem here is the inability of GC to handle non-ISO currencies.
There's no reason users should not be able to add a non-ISO currency.  It's
a silly limitation that reduces the capability of the tool.  E.g., it would
be useful for a user to be able to define a "Skymiles" currency for a
particular type of air miles.

> It doesn't handle it because the currency does have decimals (at least 
> historically).  This is not a bug in GnuCash.  Arguably it might be a 
> bug that GnuCash does not handle *changes* in currency like this.

Just because ISO is calling two commodities with differing properties the
same currency, doesn't mean you have to consider it a singular currency in
your application.  Handling currency changes just so you could use the same
currency name would be over-engineering.  There's nothing wrong with
over-engineering, but it would be more practical for GC to have one currency
for the obsolete national currency, and another currency for the modern
currency.

I checked on Japanese yen, and GC does in fact handle yen correctly (as
whole numbers).  So if the OP is certain to never need to use yen, he could
lie to GC, and use yen to represent the accounts of his new whole number
currency, and let the ISO version of his national currency continue to
represent the obsolete currency.

Or better yet, use an obscure currency instead of yen.  These are the
currencies that use whole numbers:

   BIF 108 0 Burundian franc  Burundi
   BYR 974 0 Belarusian ruble  Belarus
   CLF 990 0 Unidad de Fomento (funds code)  Chile
   CLP 152 0 Chilean peso  Chile
   CVE 132 0 Cape Verde escudo  Cape Verde
   DJF 262 0 Djiboutian franc  Djibouti
   GNF 324 0 Guinean franc  Guinea
   IRR 364 0 Iranian rial  Iran
   ISK 352 0 Icelandic krÃ³na  Iceland
   JPY 392 0 Japanese yen  Japan
   KMF 174 0 Comoro franc  Comoros
   KPW 408 0 North Korean won  North Korea
   KRW 410 0 South Korean won  South Korea
   LAK 418 0 Lao kip  Laos
   LBP 422 0 Lebanese pound  Lebanon
   MGA 969 0.7^[8] Malagasy ariary  Madagascar
   MMK 104 0 Myanma kyat  Myanmar
   MRO 478 0.7^[8] Mauritanian ouguiya  Mauritania
   PYG 600 0 Paraguayan guaranÃ  Paraguay
   RWF 646 0 Rwandan franc  Rwanda
   SLL 694 0 Sierra Leonean leone  Sierra Leone
   STD 678 0 SÃ£o TomÃ© and PrÃncipe dobra  SÃ£o TomÃ© and PrÃncipe
   UYI 940 0 Uruguay Peso en Unidades Indexadas (URUIURUI) (funds code)
   VND 704 0 Vietnamese dong  Vietnam
   VUV 548 0 Vanuatu vatu  Vanuatu
   XAF 950 0 CFA franc BEAC  Cameroon,  Central African Republic,
   XOF 952 0 CFA Franc BCEAO  Benin,  Burkina Faso,  CÃ´te d'Ivoire,
   XPF 953 0 CFP franc  French Polynesia,  New Caledonia,  Wallis and
   ADP 020 0 Andorran peseta (1:1 peg to the Spanish peseta)  ? 1999-01-01
   ESP 724 0 Spanish peseta 1869 1999-01-01 EUR
   GRD 300 0 Greek drachma 1954 2001-01-01 EUR
   ITL 380 0 Italian lira 1861 1999-01-01 EUR
   PTE 620 0 Portuguese escudo 1911-05-22 1999-01-01 EUR
   SML ... 0 San Marinese lira (currency union with ITL and VAL) 1864
   VAL ... 0 Vatican lira (currency union with ITL and SML) 1929
   AON 024 0 Angolan new kwanza 1990 1995 AOR
   AOR 982 0 Angolan kwanza readjustado 1995 1999 AOA
   AZM 031 0 Azerbaijani manat 1992-08-15 2006-01-01 AZN
   ECS 218 0 Ecuadorian sucre 1884 2000 USD
   GHC 288 0 Ghanaian cedi 1967 2007-07-01 GHS
   ISJ ... 0 Icelandic old krona  ? 1981 ISK
   MZM 508 0 Mozambican metical 1980 2006-06-30 MZN
   TMM 795 0 Turkmenistani manat 1993-11-01 2008-12-31 TMT
   TRL 792 0 Turkish lira A/05  ? 2005 TRY

Some of those are obsolete, which is ideal for the OP to hijack.
E.g. the Italian lira.

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