How to balance an account?
Jean-David Beyer
jeandavid8 at verizon.net
Sat Mar 16 21:46:02 EDT 2013
On 03/16/2013 05:56 PM, Buddha Buck wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Jean-David Beyer
> <jeandavid8 at verizon.net <mailto:jeandavid8 at verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> Here is a typical transaction:
>
> 2013-03-14 Amazon.com 15.91
> Hang On To Your Kids Expenses: Books 15.91
> Liabilities:American Express 14.87
> Liabilities:EndUseTax 1.04
>
>
> I don't think this is quite right. I think I would account for it as
> follows:
>
> 2013-03-14 Amazon.com -- Hand On To Your Kids
> Expenses:Books: Debit 14.87
> Liabilities:American Express Credit 14.87
> Expenses:Taxes:EndUse: Debit 1.04
> Liabilities:UnpaidTaxes: Credit 1.04
I tried doing that, and it did not make sense to me at the time, so I
did it my way instead. As a practical matter, it does not seem to make
much difference.
>
> You didn't spend $15.91 on the book, you spent $14.87 on the book, and
> $1.04 on end use taxes. You paid for it with $14.87 from American
> Express, and $.104 from the Unpaid Tax liability.
We clearly disagree, but this disagreement does not make much
difference. As far as I am concerned, the end use tax on the book is as
much part of the cost of the book as the shipping charge is. I do not
feel I get any benefit by keeping one separate and the other one as part
of the cost. So I made them the same.
>
> I would expect the transaction at the end of the year would look
> something like:
>
> 2014-04-15 New Jersey State Taxes
> Expenses:Taxes:Income Tax: Debit $5432.00
> Liabiliies:UnpaidTaxes: Debit $32.45
> Expenses:Taxes:EndUse: Debit -$0.45
> Assets:Prepaid Taxes: Credit $5342.32
> Assets:Checking: Credit $121.68
>
> The negative debit to the end-use expense is designed to cancel out the
> $0.45 that the State Tax form says you aren't supposed to pay. If the
> Auditor questions it, you can say (honestly) that you were accounting
> for the rounding down to the dollar the State says you can do. The
> worst the auditor is likely to do is say "oh, that's not how you should
> deal with that, here's how". But how you should deal with it is likely
> something like this, and this won't raise alarms. The correction is
> associated with the transaction where the taxes were paid (not with a
> random other transaction) and the individual transactions involving an
> end use tax are all correct.
I think I see what you mean. I diddled the tax I paid in 2012 for the
tax year 2011 to be like this. I found I already had an account,
Expenses:Adjustment (that had no entries in it) and made it pay the
$0.48, thus:the transactions involved in paying my end use tax looked
like this:
Debit Credit
2012-04-02 Roundoff Fixit 0.48
Fix Roundoff Liabilities:EndUseTax 0.48
Expenses:Adjustment 0.48
2012-04-03 NJ Division of Taxation 177.00
Balance Due Exp.:Taxes:St.Income 305.00
Liabilities..EndUseTx 177.00
Crnt.Assets:Checking 482.00
The $482 was the actual value on the check I sent to the NJ tax man.
I suppose some years, the entry in Expenses:adjustment will be a debit,
and others a credit, and in the long run, should balance out to 0
(statistically speaking).
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