Unexpected Cash Flow report behavior. Help?

... offonoffoffonoff at gmail.com
Sun Nov 24 14:29:26 EST 2013


Thanks,

I am indeed using 2.4.x.

Did the cash flow report always not work? Or is it not unit tested?  It's a
little unnerving to come across bugs like this, and my co-workers aren't as
sold on open source as I am.  Is there a comprehensive list of known bugs
in the stable version?


So, using 2.5.8 is a possible quick solution?

I really do appreciate your efforts.

-Elliot


On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Cat P <barking at gmx.com> wrote:

> Thanks Carsten, good to know it's a bug instead of expected behaviour.
> I'd noticed this with split transactions but I thought it was my
> expectations that were wrong.
>
> Cat
>
>
>
> On 24/11/2013 09:43, Carsten Rinke wrote:
> > Hi ... <010010>,
> >
> > could it be you are using GnuCash 2.4.x?
> >
> > Then I suppose your are seeing
> > *Bug 622778* <https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=622778>
> > -Miscalculation in cashflow reports
> > which will be fixed in GnuCash 2.6.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > /Carsten
> >
> > On 11/23/2013 11:14 AM, Cat P wrote:
> >> Your cash flow report is behaving as expected given your transactions.
> >> You seem to want a different report.
> >>
> >> Cat
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/11/2013 19:49, ... wrote:
> >>> We are a private school.  Our CPA suggested we keep track of our
> tuition
> >>> assistance as an expense.  That is, although some families pay less,
> they
> >>> do so because they have been allocated some amount of the tuition we
> are
> >>> willing to forgo.
> >>>
> >>> As an example, start with a brand new account.  Put in only one
> transaction:
> >>>
> >>> Income:Tuition                       10,000
> >>> Assets:Checking Account        5,000
> >>> Expenses:Tuition Assistance    5,000
> >>>
> >>> As far as cash goes, there is only $5,000.  Technically, the client
> owed
> >>> $10,000, but we forgive $5,000 of it and keep track of it as an
> expense.
> >>> I'd expect the cash flow report to look like this:
> >>>
> >>> Cash Flow - 01/01/2013 to 12/31/2013
> >>> Selected Accounts
> >>> Assets
> >>>       * Assets:checking account
> >>>       * Imbalance-USD
> >>>
> >>> --------------
> >>>
> >>> Money into selected accounts comes from
> >>>     Income:tuition                 $5,000.00
> >>>
> >>>     Money In                       $5,000.00
> >>>
> >>> ----------------
> >>>
> >>> Money out of selected accounts goes to
> >>>     Expenses:tuition assistance    $0.00
> >>>
> >>>     Money Out                      $0.00
> >>>
> >>> ----------------
> >>>
> >>>     Difference                     $5,000.00
> >>>
> >>> But instead, it looks like this:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cash Flow - 01/01/2013 to 12/31/2013
> >>> Selected Accounts
> >>> Assets
> >>>       * Assets:checking account
> >>>       * Imbalance-USD
> >>>
> >>> --------------
> >>>
> >>> Money into selected accounts comes from
> >>>     Income:tuition                 $10,000.00
> >>>
> >>>     Money In                       $10,000.00
> >>>
> >>> ----------------
> >>>
> >>> Money out of selected accounts goes to
> >>>     Expenses:tuition assistance    $5,000.00
> >>>
> >>>     Money Out                      $5,000.00
> >>>
> >>> ----------------
> >>>
> >>>     Difference                     $5,000.00
> >>>
> >>> This looks to me like $5,000 came out of the checking account, when
> really
> >>> there is no such transaction.  The real reason this bugs me is because
> >>> sometimes we forgive all tuition for an individual.  Then, the
> transaction
> >>> for the person does not have anything going into the checking account
> and
> >>> so is not included in the Asset Cash Flow report.
> >>>
> >>> Finally, often there are transactions that accidentally have a
> meaningless
> >>> zero in, zero out, imbalance "transaction".  Then these transactions
> show
> >>> up in a Cash Flow report for the imbalance account.  So, if there was
> >>> accidentally a zero in, zero out, meaningless transaction associated
> with
> >>> the checking account, it would show up as cash flow going through the
> >>> checking account!
> >>>
> >>> I am not an accountant.  I don't know what an accountant is expecting
> to
> >>> see.  But I feel like this behavior potentially makes the cash flow
> report
> >>> meaningless.  If this is expected behavior, there should at least be a
> >>> function that removes all of the zero in, zero out splits.
> >>>
> >>> Will our accountant be confused by GNUcash's Cash Flow report working
> like
> >>> this?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>   Elliot
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