Advance payment for multiple invoices for multiple accounts

David Gillam dave at davegillam.org
Sun Jul 13 15:58:50 EDT 2014


I believe the more scientific/exact answer is that Yahoo publishes SPF records that Google is honoring:

yahoo.com.		1800	IN	TXT	"v=spf1 redirect=_spf.mail.yahoo.com"
_spf.mail.yahoo.com.	897	IN	TXT	"v=spf1 ptr:yahoo.com ptr:yahoo.net ?all"

but is going a bit overboard about it (?all means this may not be a comprehensive list, so only soft-fail).  I assume Google's version of "soft-fail" is to quarantine the email, instead of reject it entirely.  Other email providers do different things--the one possibly best at it modifies the subject on ?all violations, so that the end user can determine how it should be handled.

This situation is exactly why SPFv2 (SenderID) was developed, but since so few places actually used it, the powers decided to deprecate it.  We now see how list traffic works (or doesn't) with just SPFv1.

If you'd like to move to an email provider who is more personal, let's you get the email you want, and doesn't sift your email for advertisement use, please contact me.  I can help.



On Jul 13, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Fred Bone <Fred.Bone at dial.pipex.com> wrote:

> On 12 July 2014 at 19:04, Michael Hendry said:
> 
>> On 12 Jul 2014, at 17:35, Donna Pfeifer <donna32132 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, Maf!
>>> 
>>> That works fine and is simple enough for me to follow.
>>> 
>>> Thank you all for your help. I couldn't do it without you.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>> 
>> Not relevant to the thread, but all of your contributions to the list have
>> been dumped in my Google Mail Spam bucket - the reason given is:
>> 
>> Be careful with this message. Our systems couldn't verify that this
>> message was really sent by yahoo.com. You might want to avoid clicking on
>> links or replying with personal information.
>> 
>> IIRC, there is at least one other contributor who uses yahoo and whose
>> posts are treated in the same way.
>> 
>> Is there any way this can be fixed?
> 
> This is because Yahoo is telling the world that anything sent from a 
> yahoo.com address via a mailing list is to be treated as spam(*). Thia 
> has been going on for five or six weeks and affects mailing lists 
> everywhere.
> 
> The cure is for the senders to switch to a better ISP, at least for their 
> mailing list traffic. I generally recommend Gmail, but there's plenty of 
> choice.
> 
> (*) more specifically, that anything from a yahoo.com address that 
> doesn't come directly from a yahoo server -- such as anything redirected 
> via the sort of mailing list we are on here -- is to be treated as spam.
> 
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