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>   1. Re: How to export all accounts and details to new computer?
>      (Mike or Penny Novack)
>   2. Re: Setting up gnucash for charity with project
>      (Mike or Penny Novack)
>   3. Re: qif file (Derek Atkins)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:38:41 -0500
> From: Mike or Penny Novack <stepbystepfarm at mtdata.com>
> To: Karen Tseng <kar.tseng at gmail.com>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: How to export all accounts and details to new computer?
> Message-ID: <54523151.3000503 at mtdata.com>
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>> 
>> I have recently bought a new computer and would like to continue using
>> Gnucash on the new computer with all my existing accounts etc currently in
>> my old computer.
>> 
>> How do I go about exporting/replicating this on the new desktop?  I'm using
>> a Mac
>> 
>> Thank very much!
>> 
>> Karen
>> 
>> 
> This might seem at first like a strange answer << asking you questions >>
> 
> How would you go about restoring your gnucash data from the latest 
> regular backup that you made? Hey, for the moment forget that we are 
> asking about gnucash data. How would you be doing this for ANY of your 
> data you are restoring from backup? How are you moving all your OTHER 
> data to this new machine?
> 
> Not only how moving in the logical sense but how in the physical sense? 
> (for example, using an external USB drive first hooked to the old 
> machine and then later to the new one)
> 
> Michael
> 
> PS: If after having thought about these things and figured out how you 
> will be doing the move for data in general you can come back with 
> questions specific to gnucash data (how that might be different, for 
> example, than moving your email folders or your browser bookmarks, etc.)
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:54:55 -0500
> From: Mike or Penny Novack <stepbystepfarm at mtdata.com>
> To: Wm <wm+gnc at tarrcity.demon.co.uk>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: Setting up gnucash for charity with project
> Message-ID: <5452351F.9040301 at mtdata.com>
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> Wm wrote:
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>> Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:15:06 
>> <00e301cff382$bd8ac500$38a04f00$@lineone.net> Chris Brittain 
>> <chrisbrittain at lineone.net>
>> 
>>> Hi! I am a newbie on the list and have just taken over as a charity
>>> treasurer. The existing accounts are a bit random, but as it was just 
>>> income
>>> and expenditure they survived. About a year ago, they won some 
>>> restricted
>>> funding (about 5X annual turnover) from a range of funders for a new
>>> building project and the old "system" collapsed along with the 
>>> treasurer. I
>>> am now trying to sort out the mess and have started to use GnuCash 
>>> (for my
>>> first time). The straightforward income and expenditure are fine, but 
>>> what
>>> is the best way to set up the project with its restricted funds?
>>> 
>>> Also, what is the best management account report to show the 
>>> relationship
>>> between the project and the main P&L as reserves have been regularly 
>>> moved
>>> to and fro to meet matching requirements. Sorry to ask such a na?ve
>>> question. Thanks in anticipation
>> 
>> 
>> This is a perennial question.
>> 
>> I think the formal answer is that GnuCash doesn't do fund accounting 
>> as expected.
> 
> 
> As always, the way to proceed is to make sure you understand how you 
> would have been doing this accounting in the old days of pen and ink on 
> paper. Once you have that straight in your mind won't be hard to see the 
> accounts you would set up using gnucash and the transactions you would 
> enter between them.
> 
> Not exactly proper for us to give ACCOUNTING advice, but I am also the 
> treasurer for some non-profits, and though while not at present, have 
> had to deal with "restricted funds".
> 
> a) FORMAL (legally) restricted funds are usually shown as liabilities.
> b) INFORMAL (just morally) restricted funds I have shown as a 
> sequestered part of the savings account.
> 
> In both case, use of money according to the restriction releases that 
> amount of funding from restriction. You could do this as each 
> transaction came in, adjust quarterly, or adjust annually.
> 
> We'll take an example from one of my own (MA Chapter of TACF). We had  a 
> large donation from an elderly retiring board member to fund the next 
> stage (testing the trees for resistance)  which he might not live to 
> see. But this was only an informal restriction. So I split the savings 
> account to general savings and "Howard Fund". When after several years 
> we began to have expenses in the category "inoculation and testing" I 
> would make an annual adjustment transferring the sum of those qualifying 
> expenses between Howard Fund and General Savings.
> 
> I will NOT describe exactly what you should be doing for a formal 
> (legal) restriction, especially one several times in size your annual 
> budget. You should get professional advice on how to properly account 
> for that.
> 
> Michael
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:09:22 -0400
> From: Derek Atkins <warlord at MIT.EDU>
> To: Simon Bond <shug0131 at gmail.com>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: qif file
> Message-ID: <sjmwq7hzm25.fsf at securerf.ihtfp.org>
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> (forwarding back to the list).
> 
> Glad you figured it out!
> 
> -derek
> 
> Simon Bond <shug0131 at gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Thanks for your thoughts. I did check and found a dubious date of 0/0/0000 for
>> a transaction saying that zero interest was charged. Deleting that transaction
>> sorted out the problem
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    Hi,
>> 
>>    On Sat, October 25, 2014 12:55 pm, Simon Bond wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to import a qif file I downloaded into gnucash. It says
>>    there's
>>> an error with the date format, but when I look at it with a basic text
>>> editor, no apparent problem. There does appear to be extra lines
>>    starting
>>> with "M". Is this the real problem ? I've copied in? a few lines from
>>    the
>>> head of the file.
>> 
>>    What is the exact error you get?
>> 
>>    You should look through the WHOLE file and check every line that begins
>>    with a "D".? Most likely you have one in there that is bogus.
>> 
>>    How was this QIF created?
>> 
>>    -derek
>> 
>>    PS: There is nothing wrong with the few transactions you copied here.
>> 
>>> Thanks Simon
>>> 
>>> !Type:CCard
>>> D14/08/2014
>>> T-3612.10
>>> PINITIAL BALANCE
>>> M
>>> ^
>>> D14/08/2014
>>> T0.77
>>> PBONUS CASHBACK
>>> M
>>> ^
>>> D14/08/2014
>>> T3.82
>>> P1PC CASHBACK
>>> M
>>> ^
>>> D14/08/2014
>>> T0.16
>>> P2PC CASHBACK
>>> M
>>> ^
>>> D14/08/2014
>>> T9.00
>>> P3PC CASHBACK
>>> M
>>> ^
>>> D13/08/2014
>>> T-39.95
>>> PPURCHASE - DOMESTIC, CAMBRIDGE, S150-BLACKWELLS
>>> M** 8411
>>> ^
>>> D13/08/2014
>>> T-4.40
>>> PPURCHASE - DOMESTIC, 7600, GREATER ANGLIA
>>> M** 8411
>>> ^
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>>    --
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>>    ? ? ? ?derek at ihtfp.com? ? ? ? ? ? ?www.ihtfp.com
>>    ? ? ? ?Computer and Internet Security Consultant
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