Budget Editor Entry

[Russell Mercer]

Wm,

First, let me thank you for the response, and at least at the end, the link
to the enhanced budget report.  That could be useful.

Now, as I referenced in my initial email, a couple years ago, someone asked
a similar question about the budget editor, and received a response
questioning why they were using the function.  I was oblique in my
reference before, but to be clear, You were the person who replied last
time, with an equally unhelpful and insulting answer.  If you don't have
anything nice to say, or anything that actually moves the discussion along,
don't waste my time and yours by responding.

If budgeting functionality is included in software, it should work.  If I
am doing something wrong, and I ask a question, it would be nice to be told
what I'm doing wrong instead of questioned why I'm using functionality that
IS A PART OF THE SOFTWARE!!!!

Yes, I am angry, because you are a jerk.  If that gets me kicked off the
mailing list, then so be it.  Every one of my questions you responded with
an insult or questioning my intelligence.  I didn't come to Gnucash from a
"budgeting background", as you stated, so I wasn't doing it wrong before.
I've never used a budget in software before, and thought it might be useful
as part of maintaining my finances, so I wanted to try it.  I encountered a
problem, or what seemed like a problem, so I asked a question about it.

There is a difference between knowing what costs may be in the future, and
being able to set limits to compare what costs I am incurring, with a
possible maximum amount.  That doesn't work for Future Cash Flow, since I
haven't spent it yet and don't know exactly how much I am going to spend.

You are correct that No One bought Gnucash for the budgeting.  As is very
clear, it is an open-source product with some very dedicated developers
working to keep it updated and improved.  So, no one bought it at all.
That has no bearing on my statement that different reports contradict
themselves in their behavior.

It may be correct that budgeting has naught to do with accounting.  It does
have significant impact on finance, and managing my finances is why I use
Gnucash.  It makes sense to be able create a budget directly connected with
my accounting records than to take it into another package thus requiring
additional processing and duplication of data.

If this was the wrong place to put my questions, I apologize.  I wanted to
ensure I wasn't doing something wrong prior to filing a bug report.

My thanks to YeOldHinnerk for coming to my defense.  I apologize for going
off on a rant.  It is responses like I received that discourage other
people from utilizing mailing lists like this one, regardless of the
potential benefits.

Thanks,
Russell

On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Wm <wm+gnc at tarrcity.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:50:41 <CAB5KxtXrxbLq46=vOMZ9H2PmD=2J
> 40UVF5NpAGiV3k4TXO7q7Q at mail.gmail.com> Russell Mercer <
> rmercer206 at gmail.com>
>
>  It seems odd to me that the programmed behavior of the budget
>> editor is contradicted by different Budget reports, which also contradict
>> each other in their behavior.
>>
>> If anyone has any insight into this, I would really appreciate it.
>>
>
> No-one bought gnc for the budgeting.
>
>   I saw
>> an email from a couple years back questioning why someone would use the
>> budget functionality for monthly recurring costs, and I hope I don't get a
>> similar response this time.
>>
>
> hmmn, why not, if you know what future costs are going to be they needn't
> be budgeted for, you just put them in a future cash flow, gnc is very good
> at the latter.
>
>   Budgeting is an integral part of financial
>> management, and it really should work.  I am trying to use it because it
>> makes more sense and should theoretically take less time to do a budget in
>> Gnucash, than to export all the values to Excel for each category and time
>> period, and get it to work there.
>>
>
> Well, in that case you might need to rethink.  Budgeting is *not* central
> to gnc.  If you're a refugee from budget orientated software then you need
> to accept that you were doing it wrong before.  Welcome to the world of
> accounting rather than budgeting.
>
>  Again, any assistance would be appreciated.
>>
>
> http://blog.dnpavlov.com/2014/03/gnucash-budget-report-enhancement.html
>
> is better than standard but involves you doing something and understanding
> more.
>
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