Trial Balance report -operator error or bug
David T.
sunfish62 at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 9 23:36:00 EST 2017
I attach a simple gnucash file that contains one commodity account with an initial holdings and two sells with manually-entered capital gains values. The Chart of Accounts clearly shows $0 present, but the balance sheet shows unrealized gains.
David
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> On Feb 10, 2017, at 4:42 AM, david.carlson.417 <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> It looks like anyone who tracks (un)realized gains should run their reports in an older version of GnuCash before adopting release 2.6.15.
> I think there is a bug, but it must be a subtle one. If anyone can build a small sample file to illustrate the issue, it would be helpful.
> I will try to remember to do that before I update but it may take me a couple of months to get to that priority.
> David C
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> From: Michael via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Date: 2/9/17 1:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: Trial Balance report -operator error or bug
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> Hi hppweu,
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> I have had the same experience with 2.6.15 vs 2.6.14. I certainly don't
> know what the problem is, but I have spent a lot of fruitless time
> trying to figure out what might be happening. I believe at least one
> other person has had the same problem. I believe he switched to
> 2.6.12. Anyway, I have kept a version 2.6.14 around just for this
> reason. Mike Churchill
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> On 02/09/2017 09:25 AM, hppweu wrote:
>> I have been tracking my brokerage accounts and personal finances in gnucash for a couple of years now. Last year I had some problems and found out what the statement: "GnuCash does not automatically calculate your net capital gains" really meant. I asked and got help from the list (thanks David Carlson).
>>
>> 1. I started tracking all of my individual stock, mutual fund, and unit trust transactions in a spread sheet to calculate gross & net gains. (Some have commissions, others do not, some dividends are reinvested, some are not, etc.)
>> 2. I used the Transaction Report to ensure that the total value debits and credits were equal, after all shared had been liquidated.
>>
>> After getting out of the weeds, so to speak, with the above process I was good for year end 2015. The trial balance report balanced, the balance sheet balanced, all transaction reports for liquidated investments balanced.
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>> Now I am trying to do the same for 2016. Low and behold 2016 doesn't balance. In tracking down where the error happened, I went back & back, and I finally tracked the imbalance to a sale of some Microsoft shares in July 2013. That didn't seem correct, since everything had balanced at the end of 2015. I had updated to gnucash version 2.6.15 in January. I saw one of the changes was Bug 775368. Long story short, I have run several reports against the same data using gnucash ver. 2.6.14 & 2.6.15 with different results. I realize that the default for the commodity price source was changed between ver. 2.6.14 & 2.6.15, so I also ran each report using average cost and nearest in time. I have attached a file showing the results.
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>> The results showed that using version 2.6.14 my trial balance is still equal for year end 2015. Using version version 2.6.15, my trial balance is off beginning with a sale of some Microsoft shares in July 2013.
>> For the trial balance report:
>> On 7/15/13 the debits = credits for nearest in time & for average cost for both versions of gnucash.
>> On 7/16/13 the debits = credits for nearest in time & average cost for 2.6.14. But in version 2.6.15 the credit is greater than debit by $3.35 for nearest in time & average cost.
>> For the Balance Sheet report:
>> On 7/15/13 the assets = total equity (liabilities = 0) for nearest in time & for average cost for both versions of gnucash.
>> On 7/16/13 the assets = total equity (liabilities = 0) for nearest in time for both versions of gnucash and for average cost in version 2.6.14. But for average cost in version 2.6.15, there is an unrealized loss of $3.35, and the assets are not equal to the total equity.
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>> I have double checked my gain calculations for the stock sale that appears to have caused the issue in version 2.6.15.
>>
>> My question is whether there is a bug in version 2.6.15 or did those changes highlight a bug in my process?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help,
>> Pam
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