Trial Balance Report with Investment Transactions

Richard Lindgren rlindgren74 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 13 13:15:07 EST 2017


I went back and used release 2.6.11 and that one works for me. 

Richard 

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On Feb 13, 2017, 1:05 PM, at 1:05 PM, "david.carlson.417 at gmail.com" <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>    David T,
>The 'gross' realized capital gain is used in GnuCash to reduce the
>value of the security account as it is declared as income.
>If you do not want to accumulate commissions in an expense account but
>still show them as a separate split line, you could also use another
>security account line with zero shares for that split line.  I am not
>sure how that would play with the lot feature.
>As far as the Trial Balance report being broken is concerned, I think
>if it is broken it may have been broken early in the release 2.6 series
>somewhere before 2.6.11.
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>David C
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>Sent from my LG G Pad 7.0 LTE, an AT&T 4G LTE tablet
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>------ Original message------From: John RallsDate: Mon, Feb 13, 2017
>9:29 AMTo: sunfish62 at yahoo.com;Cc: Gnucash;Richard Lindgren;Chris
>Good;Subject:Re: Trial Balance Report with Investment Transactions 
>> On Feb 12, 2017, at 11:29 PM, David T.  wrote:> > John, > > I truly
>don't understand what you're saying. The commissions are entered once.
>I'm not expensing them, as far as I understand it. Everything I have
>read says that capital gain in the US  is discovered by the formula:>
>Sale price - purchase price - commissions. > > In my example, for 100
>shares,  I have:> * a purchase cost of $11.90> * a sale of $3480> *
>sale commissions of $64.05, entered as splits on the sale transaction>
>> Gnucash wants me to report gain of $3468.10> My broker and I both get
>$3404.05> > Please tell me how GnuCash's number is right (especially
>since my broker is willing to report my number to the IRS).> >
>Moreover, it appears that the trial balance is perfectly happy to
>balance out when the gains transactions are duplicated (e.g., if I
>scrub the account, and end up with my gain of 3404.05 AND gnucash's
>3468.10). I'm not sure how that is supposed be right. David,What I'm
>saying is that you can *either* book the commissions and fees as an
>expense *or* you can reduce the capital gain income by the amount of
>the fees. You cannot do both for a single trade. If you book the
>commissions and fees as an expense then the the capital gain income is
>the total of selling price x shares - buying price x shares.What your
>broker's trade confirmation does is break out the net: It tells you the
>share price and the number of shares, and a gross sale value. Then it
>deducts (for a sale) or adds (for a buy) the commissions and on a sale
>deducts the fees and reports a net sale value or cost basis;
>subtracting the cost basis from the net sale value results in the
>"netted out" capital gain that you report on your taxes.If you instead
>apply the commissions and fees as expenses, then they can't also be
>used to reduce the capital gains income. The capital gain income would
>be the difference of the gross sale less the gross basis ignoring the
>commissions and fees and the profit or loss shows up as the difference
>between income and expense according to the usual accounting
>equation.The trial balance seems to have been broken before I fixed
>bugs 774368 and 340991. I didn't know that at the time, I don't often
>use it, but I'll take your word that until 2.6.15 it would balance out
>even when you accounted twice for commissions and fees. The current
>behavior is correct.Regards,John
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