Flash Drive

John Wright minimuddler at gmail.com
Sat Jul 15 15:31:38 EDT 2017


David,

I have pretty much given up on that idea, as you said its a very complex 
approach, and to be honest, probably not worth the time for the 
benefit.  I saw the space used on the hard drive, and yes I do have 
enough space for that, so I think I will store the data on the flash 
drive and run the app from the hard drive.  As you said, that's a pretty 
trivial thing to do and won't take a lot of time.

Thanks.

John


On 07/15/2017 12:19 AM, David T. wrote:
> John,
>
> I seem to have misunderstood. I thought you said you were only trying 
> to store the data file on the flash drive; this sounds like you are 
> trying to store the entire application there.
>
> Storing the data file is trivial, but trying to load the entire 
> application is another story. Since I am not a Linux guy, I will defer 
> to the comments made here by the others about the difficulties of 
> running an application from removable storage.
>
> Gnucash on my mac takes a total of about 175Mb of space. Surely that 
> could fit in the limited space available to you? If that is still a 
> stretch, you can probably delete some of the different language help 
> files; the Japanese docs especially eat up a lot of space.
>
> David
>
>
>     On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 1:08, John Wright
>     <minimuddler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     David,
>
>     Yes, in fact I have gotten the error several times. My first
>     attempt at running gnucash from a flash drive went this way. 
>     Installed it on the hard drive,  then moved all the gnucash files
>     (except libs) to flash drive,  added a .desktop file to
>     user/share/applications.  That worked ok, but I couldn't find the
>     icon, and all the lib files were still on the hard drive.
>
>     The reason I want to do this is that the laptop I just purchased
>     has a 15GB m-stat sshd.  So I really don't have a lot of room to
>     play with.  Sort of a throwback to the days when everything we ran
>     was stored on floppy drives and either a very small hard drive or
>     no hard drive at all.  Of course that was way before the internet.
>
>     John
>
>
>     On 07/14/2017 01:20 PM, David wrote:
>>
>>     I guess it's lucky that John only wants to load his data from the
>>     flash drive, then.
>>
>>     John, be aware that GnuCash always tries to load the last file it
>>     had open; if the folder isn't available when you fire it up, you
>>     will receive an error. Just be sure the USB stick is inserted and
>>     mounted before you start GC, and you should be fine.
>>
>>     David
>>
>>
>>
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>>     *From:* David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>>     <mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>>     *Sent:* Fri Jul 14 22:00:33 GMT+05:00 2017
>>     *To:* Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com>
>>     <mailto:heller at deepsoft.com>
>>     *Cc:* "gnucash-user at gnucash.org"
>>     <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>>     <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>, John Wright
>>     <minimuddler at gmail.com> <mailto:minimuddler at gmail.com>
>>     *Subject:* Re: Flash Drive
>>
>>     Perhaps this is not sensible, but I once experimented with installing
>>     Gnucash on a USB key configured as a Tails OS with persistent storage.
>>     That is based on Debian Linux.  It worked, but it was somewhat clumsy.  The
>>     nice thing is that all the data is completely encrypted and insulated from
>>     intruders, "sandboxed" if you will.
>>
>>     David C
>>
>>     On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Robert Heller<heller at deepsoft.com> <mailto:heller at deepsoft.com>  wrote:
>>
>>     > At Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:39:17 +0100 Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> <mailto:clanlaw at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>     >
>>     > >
>>     > > On this list you have to use Reply All to reply otherwise the message
>>     > > just goes to the previous user (as this did). Forwarding this to the
>>     > > list for information.  Also see reply below.
>>     > >
>>     > > On 14 July 2017 at 12:31, John Wright <minimuddler at gmail.com> <mailto:minimuddler at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>     > > > Colin,
>>     > > >
>>     > > > Sorry for the confusion.  I what to just run gnucash from the flash
>>     > drive.
>>     > > > Fedora will be installed on the pc and gnucash as well as all the
>>     > gnucash
>>     > > > data will be on the flash drive.
>>     > >
>>     > > To be pedantic you don't want to run gnucash from the flash drive, you
>>     > > want to run gnucash from the HDD and write and read the accounts file
>>     > > to the removable drive, which should be no problem. Gnucash does not
>>     > > care where you save to and read from. If you want saved reports to be
>>     > > on the drive there may be a little more work.
>>     >
>>     > Most (all?) sensibly setup and configured Linux systems will refuse to
>>     > *run*
>>     > programs on removable media, since that is a massive security risk.
>>     >
>>     > Also, gnucash is generally dynamicaly linked and depends on various
>>     > [shared]
>>     > libraries that would need to be installed in system places (eg
>>     > /usr/lib[64]/)
>>     > from various dependent packages. So it is unlikely that putting *just* the
>>     > gnucash exe file on the flash drive will work. Gnucash itself expects to
>>     > find
>>     > stuff in /usr/share/gnucash, which won't be on the flash drive. And also
>>     > has
>>     > its own pile of .so files in /usr/lib[64]/ that it will need to access.
>>     > And
>>     > it is likely that gnucash built for, say Ubuntu, may not run *as is* under
>>     > fedora, becase of different library versions (and whatnot).  You really
>>     > need
>>     > to just install the fedora build of gnucash on the fedora (there most
>>     > likely
>>     > is a gnucash-<mumble>.rpm out there somewhere, probably in the fedora
>>     > repository, so a 'sudo yum install gnucash' will do everything needful.)
>>     >
>>     > But otherwise, having the *data* files on the thumb drive is a perfectly
>>     > sensible thing to do.  And is possible fairly secure as well.
>>     >
>>     > >
>>     > > Colin
>>     > >
>>     > > >
>>     > > > Thanks.
>>     > > >
>>     > > >
>>     > > > On 07/14/2017 06:04 AM, Colin Law wrote:
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> On 14 July 2017 at 03:12, ov10fac <ov10fac at cox.net> <mailto:ov10fac at cox.net>  wrote:
>>     > > >>>
>>     > > >>> Does anyone know if gnucash can be run from a flash drive using
>>     > fedora?
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> Do you mean you want the program on a flash drive or the data file? If
>>     > > >> you want the data file on the flash drive with gnucash installed in
>>     > > >> fedora on the PC then that is no problem. If you want to install the
>>     > > >> program itself onto the flashdrive, with Fedora on the PC, then that
>>     > > >> is more problematic. Or do you mean you want to run Fedora itself and
>>     > > >> gnucash from the flash drive?
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> Colin
>>     > > >
>>     > > >
>>     > >
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