Flash Drive
John Wright
minimuddler at gmail.com
Sat Jul 15 15:31:38 EDT 2017
David,
I have pretty much given up on that idea, as you said its a very complex
approach, and to be honest, probably not worth the time for the
benefit. I saw the space used on the hard drive, and yes I do have
enough space for that, so I think I will store the data on the flash
drive and run the app from the hard drive. As you said, that's a pretty
trivial thing to do and won't take a lot of time.
Thanks.
John
On 07/15/2017 12:19 AM, David T. wrote:
> John,
>
> I seem to have misunderstood. I thought you said you were only trying
> to store the data file on the flash drive; this sounds like you are
> trying to store the entire application there.
>
> Storing the data file is trivial, but trying to load the entire
> application is another story. Since I am not a Linux guy, I will defer
> to the comments made here by the others about the difficulties of
> running an application from removable storage.
>
> Gnucash on my mac takes a total of about 175Mb of space. Surely that
> could fit in the limited space available to you? If that is still a
> stretch, you can probably delete some of the different language help
> files; the Japanese docs especially eat up a lot of space.
>
> David
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 1:08, John Wright
> <minimuddler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> Yes, in fact I have gotten the error several times. My first
> attempt at running gnucash from a flash drive went this way.
> Installed it on the hard drive, then moved all the gnucash files
> (except libs) to flash drive, added a .desktop file to
> user/share/applications. That worked ok, but I couldn't find the
> icon, and all the lib files were still on the hard drive.
>
> The reason I want to do this is that the laptop I just purchased
> has a 15GB m-stat sshd. So I really don't have a lot of room to
> play with. Sort of a throwback to the days when everything we ran
> was stored on floppy drives and either a very small hard drive or
> no hard drive at all. Of course that was way before the internet.
>
> John
>
>
> On 07/14/2017 01:20 PM, David wrote:
>>
>> I guess it's lucky that John only wants to load his data from the
>> flash drive, then.
>>
>> John, be aware that GnuCash always tries to load the last file it
>> had open; if the folder isn't available when you fire it up, you
>> will receive an error. Just be sure the USB stick is inserted and
>> mounted before you start GC, and you should be fine.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
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>> *Sent:* Fri Jul 14 22:00:33 GMT+05:00 2017
>> *To:* Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com>
>> <mailto:heller at deepsoft.com>
>> *Cc:* "gnucash-user at gnucash.org"
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>> <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>, John Wright
>> <minimuddler at gmail.com> <mailto:minimuddler at gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Flash Drive
>>
>> Perhaps this is not sensible, but I once experimented with installing
>> Gnucash on a USB key configured as a Tails OS with persistent storage.
>> That is based on Debian Linux. It worked, but it was somewhat clumsy. The
>> nice thing is that all the data is completely encrypted and insulated from
>> intruders, "sandboxed" if you will.
>>
>> David C
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Robert Heller<heller at deepsoft.com> <mailto:heller at deepsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> > At Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:39:17 +0100 Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> <mailto:clanlaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On this list you have to use Reply All to reply otherwise the message
>> > > just goes to the previous user (as this did). Forwarding this to the
>> > > list for information. Also see reply below.
>> > >
>> > > On 14 July 2017 at 12:31, John Wright <minimuddler at gmail.com> <mailto:minimuddler at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Colin,
>> > > >
>> > > > Sorry for the confusion. I what to just run gnucash from the flash
>> > drive.
>> > > > Fedora will be installed on the pc and gnucash as well as all the
>> > gnucash
>> > > > data will be on the flash drive.
>> > >
>> > > To be pedantic you don't want to run gnucash from the flash drive, you
>> > > want to run gnucash from the HDD and write and read the accounts file
>> > > to the removable drive, which should be no problem. Gnucash does not
>> > > care where you save to and read from. If you want saved reports to be
>> > > on the drive there may be a little more work.
>> >
>> > Most (all?) sensibly setup and configured Linux systems will refuse to
>> > *run*
>> > programs on removable media, since that is a massive security risk.
>> >
>> > Also, gnucash is generally dynamicaly linked and depends on various
>> > [shared]
>> > libraries that would need to be installed in system places (eg
>> > /usr/lib[64]/)
>> > from various dependent packages. So it is unlikely that putting *just* the
>> > gnucash exe file on the flash drive will work. Gnucash itself expects to
>> > find
>> > stuff in /usr/share/gnucash, which won't be on the flash drive. And also
>> > has
>> > its own pile of .so files in /usr/lib[64]/ that it will need to access.
>> > And
>> > it is likely that gnucash built for, say Ubuntu, may not run *as is* under
>> > fedora, becase of different library versions (and whatnot). You really
>> > need
>> > to just install the fedora build of gnucash on the fedora (there most
>> > likely
>> > is a gnucash-<mumble>.rpm out there somewhere, probably in the fedora
>> > repository, so a 'sudo yum install gnucash' will do everything needful.)
>> >
>> > But otherwise, having the *data* files on the thumb drive is a perfectly
>> > sensible thing to do. And is possible fairly secure as well.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Colin
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 07/14/2017 06:04 AM, Colin Law wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On 14 July 2017 at 03:12, ov10fac <ov10fac at cox.net> <mailto:ov10fac at cox.net> wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Does anyone know if gnucash can be run from a flash drive using
>> > fedora?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Do you mean you want the program on a flash drive or the data file? If
>> > > >> you want the data file on the flash drive with gnucash installed in
>> > > >> fedora on the PC then that is no problem. If you want to install the
>> > > >> program itself onto the flashdrive, with Fedora on the PC, then that
>> > > >> is more problematic. Or do you mean you want to run Fedora itself and
>> > > >> gnucash from the flash drive?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Colin
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
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