Flash Drive

Adrien Monteleone adrien.monteleone at gmail.com
Mon Jul 17 20:36:04 EDT 2017


I think the OP was interested in using GC with Fedora. PortableApps.com appears to be Windows only.

For Linux portability, something like a Snap might be the ticket which would solve the dependency linking problem. I’m not sure if there are any plans to package GC as a snap.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 17, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Very cool!  I didn't know of portableapps.com, but here's the English entry
> for GnuCash.  Looks like it's based on the latest version too.
> 
> https://portableapps.com/apps/office/gnucash_portable
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Greg Feneis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Christoph R <
> subscriptions+listen at rohland.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> even if you gave up on the topic I would like to point you to:
>> https://portableapps.com/de/apps/office/gnucash_portable <
>> https://portableapps.com/de/apps/office/gnucash_portable>.
>> 
>> I did not use it for a while but it worked for me nicely with an older
>> version.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Christoph
>> 
>>> Am 15.07.2017 um 21:31 schrieb John Wright <minimuddler at gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> David,
>>> 
>>> I have pretty much given up on that idea, as you said its a very complex
>> approach, and to be honest, probably not worth the time for the benefit.  I
>> saw the space used on the hard drive, and yes I do have enough space for
>> that, so I think I will store the data on the flash drive and run the app
>> from the hard drive.  As you said, that's a pretty trivial thing to do and
>> won't take a lot of time.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 07/15/2017 12:19 AM, David T. wrote:
>>>> John,
>>>> 
>>>> I seem to have misunderstood. I thought you said you were only trying
>> to store the data file on the flash drive; this sounds like you are trying
>> to store the entire application there.
>>>> 
>>>> Storing the data file is trivial, but trying to load the entire
>> application is another story. Since I am not a Linux guy, I will defer to
>> the comments made here by the others about the difficulties of running an
>> application from removable storage.
>>>> 
>>>> Gnucash on my mac takes a total of about 175Mb of space. Surely that
>> could fit in the limited space available to you? If that is still a
>> stretch, you can probably delete some of the different language help files;
>> the Japanese docs especially eat up a lot of space.
>>>> 
>>>> David
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 1:08, John Wright
>>>>   <minimuddler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   David,
>>>> 
>>>>   Yes, in fact I have gotten the error several times. My first
>>>>   attempt at running gnucash from a flash drive went this way.
>> Installed it on the hard drive,  then moved all the gnucash files
>>>>   (except libs) to flash drive,  added a .desktop file to
>>>>   user/share/applications.  That worked ok, but I couldn't find the
>>>>   icon, and all the lib files were still on the hard drive.
>>>> 
>>>>   The reason I want to do this is that the laptop I just purchased
>>>>   has a 15GB m-stat sshd.  So I really don't have a lot of room to
>>>>   play with.  Sort of a throwback to the days when everything we ran
>>>>   was stored on floppy drives and either a very small hard drive or
>>>>   no hard drive at all.  Of course that was way before the internet.
>>>> 
>>>>   John
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   On 07/14/2017 01:20 PM, David wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   I guess it's lucky that John only wants to load his data from the
>>>>>   flash drive, then.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   John, be aware that GnuCash always tries to load the last file it
>>>>>   had open; if the folder isn't available when you fire it up, you
>>>>>   will receive an error. Just be sure the USB stick is inserted and
>>>>>   mounted before you start GC, and you should be fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   David
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------
>>>>>   *From:* David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>>>>>   <mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>>>>>   *Sent:* Fri Jul 14 22:00:33 GMT+05:00 2017
>>>>>   *To:* Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com>
>>>>>   <mailto:heller at deepsoft.com>
>>>>>   *Cc:* "gnucash-user at gnucash.org"
>>>>>   <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>>>>>   <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>, John Wright
>>>>>   <minimuddler at gmail.com> <mailto:minimuddler at gmail.com>
>>>>>   *Subject:* Re: Flash Drive
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Perhaps this is not sensible, but I once experimented with
>> installing
>>>>>   Gnucash on a USB key configured as a Tails OS with persistent
>> storage.
>>>>>   That is based on Debian Linux.  It worked, but it was somewhat
>> clumsy.  The
>>>>>   nice thing is that all the data is completely encrypted and
>> insulated from
>>>>>   intruders, "sandboxed" if you will.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   David C
>>>>> 
>>>>>   On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Robert Heller<heller at deepsoft.com>
>> <mailto:heller at deepsoft.com>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> At Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:39:17 +0100 Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:clanlaw at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On this list you have to use Reply All to reply otherwise the
>> message
>>>>>>> just goes to the previous user (as this did). Forwarding this
>> to the
>>>>>>> list for information.  Also see reply below.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 14 July 2017 at 12:31, John Wright <minimuddler at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:minimuddler at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Colin,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry for the confusion.  I what to just run gnucash from the
>> flash
>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>> Fedora will be installed on the pc and gnucash as well as all
>> the
>>>>>> gnucash
>>>>>>>> data will be on the flash drive.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To be pedantic you don't want to run gnucash from the flash
>> drive, you
>>>>>>> want to run gnucash from the HDD and write and read the
>> accounts file
>>>>>>> to the removable drive, which should be no problem. Gnucash
>> does not
>>>>>>> care where you save to and read from. If you want saved reports
>> to be
>>>>>>> on the drive there may be a little more work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Most (all?) sensibly setup and configured Linux systems will
>> refuse to
>>>>>> *run*
>>>>>> programs on removable media, since that is a massive security
>> risk.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, gnucash is generally dynamicaly linked and depends on
>> various
>>>>>> [shared]
>>>>>> libraries that would need to be installed in system places (eg
>>>>>> /usr/lib[64]/)
>>>>>> from various dependent packages. So it is unlikely that putting
>> *just* the
>>>>>> gnucash exe file on the flash drive will work. Gnucash itself
>> expects to
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> stuff in /usr/share/gnucash, which won't be on the flash drive.
>> And also
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> its own pile of .so files in /usr/lib[64]/ that it will need to
>> access.
>>>>>> And
>>>>>> it is likely that gnucash built for, say Ubuntu, may not run *as
>> is* under
>>>>>> fedora, becase of different library versions (and whatnot).  You
>> really
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to just install the fedora build of gnucash on the fedora (there
>> most
>>>>>> likely
>>>>>> is a gnucash-<mumble>.rpm out there somewhere, probably in the
>> fedora
>>>>>> repository, so a 'sudo yum install gnucash' will do everything
>> needful.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But otherwise, having the *data* files on the thumb drive is a
>> perfectly
>>>>>> sensible thing to do.  And is possible fairly secure as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 07/14/2017 06:04 AM, Colin Law wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 14 July 2017 at 03:12, ov10fac <ov10fac at cox.net> <mailto:
>> ov10fac at cox.net>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if gnucash can be run from a flash drive
>> using
>>>>>> fedora?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Do you mean you want the program on a flash drive or the
>> data file? If
>>>>>>>>> you want the data file on the flash drive with gnucash
>> installed in
>>>>>>>>> fedora on the PC then that is no problem. If you want to
>> install the
>>>>>>>>> program itself onto the flashdrive, with Fedora on the PC,
>> then that
>>>>>>>>> is more problematic. Or do you mean you want to run Fedora
>> itself and
>>>>>>>>> gnucash from the flash drive?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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