Flash Drive

John Wright minimuddler at gmail.com
Mon Jul 17 07:31:22 EDT 2017


Thanks Christoph.

John


On 07/17/2017 01:42 AM, Christoph R wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> even if you gave up on the topic I would like to point you to: 
> https://portableapps.com/de/apps/office/gnucash_portable.
>
> I did not use it for a while but it worked for me nicely with an older 
> version.
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
>> Am 15.07.2017 um 21:31 schrieb John Wright <minimuddler at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:minimuddler at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> David,
>>
>> I have pretty much given up on that idea, as you said its a very 
>> complex approach, and to be honest, probably not worth the time for 
>> the benefit.  I saw the space used on the hard drive, and yes I do 
>> have enough space for that, so I think I will store the data on the 
>> flash drive and run the app from the hard drive.  As you said, that's 
>> a pretty trivial thing to do and won't take a lot of time.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On 07/15/2017 12:19 AM, David T. wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I seem to have misunderstood. I thought you said you were only 
>>> trying to store the data file on the flash drive; this sounds like 
>>> you are trying to store the entire application there.
>>>
>>> Storing the data file is trivial, but trying to load the entire 
>>> application is another story. Since I am not a Linux guy, I will 
>>> defer to the comments made here by the others about the difficulties 
>>> of running an application from removable storage.
>>>
>>> Gnucash on my mac takes a total of about 175Mb of space. Surely that 
>>> could fit in the limited space available to you? If that is still a 
>>> stretch, you can probably delete some of the different language help 
>>> files; the Japanese docs especially eat up a lot of space.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>    On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 1:08, John Wright
>>>    <minimuddler at gmail.com <mailto:minimuddler at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    David,
>>>
>>>    Yes, in fact I have gotten the error several times. My first
>>>    attempt at running gnucash from a flash drive went this way. 
>>>     Installed it on the hard drive,  then moved all the gnucash files
>>>    (except libs) to flash drive,  added a .desktop file to
>>>    user/share/applications.  That worked ok, but I couldn't find the
>>>    icon, and all the lib files were still on the hard drive.
>>>
>>>    The reason I want to do this is that the laptop I just purchased
>>>    has a 15GB m-stat sshd.  So I really don't have a lot of room to
>>>    play with.  Sort of a throwback to the days when everything we ran
>>>    was stored on floppy drives and either a very small hard drive or
>>>    no hard drive at all.  Of course that was way before the internet.
>>>
>>>    John
>>>
>>>
>>>    On 07/14/2017 01:20 PM, David wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    I guess it's lucky that John only wants to load his data from the
>>>>    flash drive, then.
>>>>
>>>>    John, be aware that GnuCash always tries to load the last file it
>>>>    had open; if the folder isn't available when you fire it up, you
>>>>    will receive an error. Just be sure the USB stick is inserted and
>>>>    mounted before you start GC, and you should be fine.
>>>>
>>>>    David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>    *From:* David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>>
>>>>    <mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>>>>    *Sent:* Fri Jul 14 22:00:33 GMT+05:00 2017
>>>>    *To:* Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com 
>>>> <mailto:heller at deepsoft.com>>
>>>>    <mailto:heller at deepsoft.com>
>>>>    *Cc:* "gnucash-user at gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>"
>>>>    <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org 
>>>> <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>
>>>>    <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>, John Wright
>>>>    <minimuddler at gmail.com <mailto:minimuddler at gmail.com>> 
>>>> <mailto:minimuddler at gmail.com>
>>>>    *Subject:* Re: Flash Drive
>>>>
>>>>    Perhaps this is not sensible, but I once experimented with 
>>>> installing
>>>>    Gnucash on a USB key configured as a Tails OS with persistent 
>>>> storage.
>>>>    That is based on Debian Linux.  It worked, but it was somewhat 
>>>> clumsy.  The
>>>>    nice thing is that all the data is completely encrypted and 
>>>> insulated from
>>>>    intruders, "sandboxed" if you will.
>>>>
>>>>    David C
>>>>
>>>>    On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Robert 
>>>> Heller<heller at deepsoft.com <mailto:heller at deepsoft.com>> 
>>>> <mailto:heller at deepsoft.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    > At Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:39:17 +0100 Colin Law 
>>>> <clanlaw at gmail.com <mailto:clanlaw at gmail.com>> 
>>>> <mailto:clanlaw at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>    >
>>>>    > >
>>>>    > > On this list you have to use Reply All to reply otherwise 
>>>> the message
>>>>    > > just goes to the previous user (as this did). Forwarding 
>>>> this to the
>>>>    > > list for information.  Also see reply below.
>>>>    > >
>>>>    > > On 14 July 2017 at 12:31, John Wright <minimuddler at gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:minimuddler at gmail.com>> <mailto:minimuddler at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>    > > > Colin,
>>>>    > > >
>>>>    > > > Sorry for the confusion.  I what to just run gnucash from 
>>>> the flash
>>>>    > drive.
>>>>    > > > Fedora will be installed on the pc and gnucash as well as 
>>>> all the
>>>>    > gnucash
>>>>    > > > data will be on the flash drive.
>>>>    > >
>>>>    > > To be pedantic you don't want to run gnucash from the flash 
>>>> drive, you
>>>>    > > want to run gnucash from the HDD and write and read the 
>>>> accounts file
>>>>    > > to the removable drive, which should be no problem. Gnucash 
>>>> does not
>>>>    > > care where you save to and read from. If you want saved 
>>>> reports to be
>>>>    > > on the drive there may be a little more work.
>>>>    >
>>>>    > Most (all?) sensibly setup and configured Linux systems will 
>>>> refuse to
>>>>    > *run*
>>>>    > programs on removable media, since that is a massive security 
>>>> risk.
>>>>    >
>>>>    > Also, gnucash is generally dynamicaly linked and depends on 
>>>> various
>>>>    > [shared]
>>>>    > libraries that would need to be installed in system places (eg
>>>>    > /usr/lib[64]/)
>>>>    > from various dependent packages. So it is unlikely that 
>>>> putting *just* the
>>>>    > gnucash exe file on the flash drive will work. Gnucash itself 
>>>> expects to
>>>>    > find
>>>>    > stuff in /usr/share/gnucash, which won't be on the flash 
>>>> drive. And also
>>>>    > has
>>>>    > its own pile of .so files in /usr/lib[64]/ that it will need 
>>>> to access.
>>>>    > And
>>>>    > it is likely that gnucash built for, say Ubuntu, may not run 
>>>> *as is* under
>>>>    > fedora, becase of different library versions (and whatnot). 
>>>>  You really
>>>>    > need
>>>>    > to just install the fedora build of gnucash on the fedora 
>>>> (there most
>>>>    > likely
>>>>    > is a gnucash-<mumble>.rpm out there somewhere, probably in the 
>>>> fedora
>>>>    > repository, so a 'sudo yum install gnucash' will do everything 
>>>> needful.)
>>>>    >
>>>>    > But otherwise, having the *data* files on the thumb drive is a 
>>>> perfectly
>>>>    > sensible thing to do.  And is possible fairly secure as well.
>>>>    >
>>>>    > >
>>>>    > > Colin
>>>>    > >
>>>>    > > >
>>>>    > > > Thanks.
>>>>    > > >
>>>>    > > >
>>>>    > > > On 07/14/2017 06:04 AM, Colin Law wrote:
>>>>    > > >>
>>>>    > > >> On 14 July 2017 at 03:12, ov10fac <ov10fac at cox.net 
>>>> <mailto:ov10fac at cox.net>> <mailto:ov10fac at cox.net>  wrote:
>>>>    > > >>>
>>>>    > > >>> Does anyone know if gnucash can be run from a flash 
>>>> drive using
>>>>    > fedora?
>>>>    > > >>
>>>>    > > >> Do you mean you want the program on a flash drive or the 
>>>> data file? If
>>>>    > > >> you want the data file on the flash drive with gnucash 
>>>> installed in
>>>>    > > >> fedora on the PC then that is no problem. If you want to 
>>>> install the
>>>>    > > >> program itself onto the flashdrive, with Fedora on the 
>>>> PC, then that
>>>>    > > >> is more problematic. Or do you mean you want to run 
>>>> Fedora itself and
>>>>    > > >> gnucash from the flash drive?
>>>>    > > >>
>>>>    > > >> Colin
>>>>    > > >
>>>>    > > >
>>>>    > >
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