No stock quote for LU1233758587
Daniel Rosenberg
dnlrsnbrg at gmail.com
Mon Jul 24 10:32:25 EDT 2017
First of all thank you very much for testing this, so I don't need to
manually check every source!
I am one step further, though. As I wrote I found the Bloomberg code
REMCIEE:LX for LU1233758587 so I tried using this with selected sources,
which also didn't work.
Then I found this Perl Bloomberg module for finance quote:
https://github.com/alex314159/PerlFinanceQuoteBloomberg
I added the file to the finance quote directory (on my Windows 10 system:
C:\Strawberry\perl\site\lib\Finance\Quote) and added Bloomberg to the
modules in the file Quotes.pm and changed the account delimiter in GnuCash
to from ":" to "\" (as described in the Readme file in the above link).
Using gnc-fq-dump and gnc-fq-helper via command line I was able to get a
quote for REMCIEE:LX.
After that, I was able to select Bloomberg as an online source for my fund.
Then I tried to get the online quotes for all my shares, but the only thing
that happened ist the black Strawberry Perl window popping up and never
closing (I let it run for more than 1 hour). After that I aborted (closed
the Strawberry Perl window) and got an error message from GnuCash about a
system error.
After removing the Bloomberg entry from Quotes.pm everything worked
normally.
Any ideas on that? Has anybody added Bloomberg module to GnuCash on Windows?
Daniel
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 14:46:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: farleykj <farleykj at gmail.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: No stock quote for LU1233758587
> Message-ID: <1500760018553-4692768.post at n4.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I made a quick shell script to try to get quotes for this symbol
> (LU1233758587) on all the sources available. Running gnc-fq-check gives all
> the sources, and sending an inquiry to gnc-fq-dump <source> LU1233758587
> for
> each source checks them. None of the sources yielded anything.
> Some possibilities I can think of:
> (1) The fund (Robeco QI Emerging Conservative Equities?) has changed its
> symbol.
> (2) The service(s) providing a quote for this have changed their interface
> enough so that finance:quote can't obtain the necessary information from
> it/them anymore.
> (3) The service(s) providing a quote for this have changed the symbol they
> use for this fund. For example, a somewhat popular stock in the US is
> Berkshire Hathaway, B shares. Some services use BKR-B for it, while others
> use BRKB, some use BRK:B. They might decide to use different symbols, which
> finance:quote wouldn't know about.
> You might have to do a little searching to find out if you need to change
> the source and/or symbol for this fund.
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 20:37:38 -0700
> From: AC <gnucash at acarver.net>
> To: GnuCash users group <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Tracking a TIAA mixed fund account
> Message-ID: <cef458f5-3b97-b14a-10a4-c3aaefe28db0 at acarver.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I want to start tracking my TIAA retirement portfolio for informational
> purposes (no reporting needs, filings, etc.) but I need some suggestions
> on structuring the account trees so that it doesn't affect my existing
> accounts. However, possibly later I'll edit things so that the paycheck
> contributions are directed accordingly so I'd want the new accounts to
> allow that eventually (i.e. for now I'll add contributions manually
> using a virtual source and eventually go back through and move those to
> withdraw from my paycheck, the amount withheld is already accounted)
>
> The trick with my TIAA portfolio is that it has three different products
> within it. Two of them are TIAA funds (one of the lifecycle multi-asset
> funds) that does not have a breakdown of the individual holdings (like a
> mutual fund). These two only document the employer contributions, my
> contributions, shares and interest/dividends. The third product is a
> TIAA mutual fund for which the individual holdings are broken out with
> all the same data as a typical mutual fund (shares, prices, etc.)
>
> What I expect to have is some type of top-level account that tracks the
> overall value of the portfolio in dollars and then either within that or
> somewhere nearby an account or account tree for each of the three
> products. At first I had considered just making the two TIAA funds into
> an account that was basically a mutual fund with a single holding but I
> wasn't quite sure how to combine that with the one real mutual fund when
> each of the three funds receives different amounts of contributions and
> individual dividends. Perhaps it would be a top-level account then
> three sub-accounts that are all mutual funds with two of them having one
> holding and the last is the broken out holding?
>
> I don't plan on using this for any official reporting (I get those
> documents already), and I don't plan on downloading statements, quotes,
> or anything else. I'll just manually track things as my statements come
> in and I enter the data from those, perhaps updating symbol share prices
> manually if I'm interested at a particular time. I don't currently use
> much reporting as is with my existing accounts except an occasional cash
> flow report so as long as that isn't affected I'm fine. I do currently
> have a mutual fund being tracked so I want to be careful not to cause
> trouble for that either.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 04:17:10 +0000 (UTC)
> From: "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> To: "gnucash at acarver.net" <gnucash at acarver.net>, GnuCash users group
> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: Tracking a TIAA mixed fund account
> Message-ID: <661595072.3619143.1500783430106 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I may be misunderstanding, ?but it seems like the following would work:
> Assets:TIAA (cash)Assets:TIAA:Lifecycle 1 (commodity)Assets:TIAA:Lifecycle
> 2 (commodity)Assets:TIAA:TIAA Mutual Fund (commodity)
> My experience of the so called "Lifecycle" funds is that they are just
> like any other mutual funds.?
> When I handle payroll deductions, the dollars go into the cash account,
> and a separate purchase transaction moves the cash into fund shares. It's a
> little cumbersome, but it allows me to ensure that the right numbers get
> in.?
> HTH,?David
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 8:38, AC<gnucash at acarver.net> wrote: I want
> to start tracking my TIAA retirement portfolio for informational
> purposes (no reporting needs, filings, etc.) but I need some suggestions
> on structuring the account trees so that it doesn't affect my existing
> accounts.? However, possibly later I'll edit things so that the paycheck
> contributions are directed accordingly so I'd want the new accounts to
> allow that eventually (i.e. for now I'll add contributions manually
> using a virtual source and eventually go back through and move those to
> withdraw from my paycheck, the amount withheld is already accounted)
>
> The trick with my TIAA portfolio is that it has three different products
> within it.? Two of them are TIAA funds (one of the lifecycle multi-asset
> funds) that does not have a breakdown of the individual holdings (like a
> mutual fund).? These two only document the employer contributions, my
> contributions, shares and interest/dividends.? The third product is a
> TIAA mutual fund for which the individual holdings are broken out with
> all the same data as a typical mutual fund (shares, prices, etc.)
>
> What I expect to have is some type of top-level account that tracks the
> overall value of the portfolio in dollars and then either within that or
> somewhere nearby an account or account tree for each of the three
> products.? At first I had considered just making the two TIAA funds into
> an account that was basically a mutual fund with a single holding but I
> wasn't quite sure how to combine that with the one real mutual fund when
> each of the three funds receives different amounts of contributions and
> individual dividends.? Perhaps it would be a top-level account then
> three sub-accounts that are all mutual funds with two of them having one
> holding and the last is the broken out holding?
>
> I don't plan on using this for any official reporting (I get those
> documents already), and I don't plan on downloading statements, quotes,
> or anything else.? I'll just manually track things as my statements come
> in and I enter the data from those, perhaps updating symbol share prices
> manually if I'm interested at a particular time.? I don't currently use
> much reporting as is with my existing accounts except an occasional cash
> flow report so as long as that isn't affected I'm fine.? I do currently
> have a mutual fund being tracked so I want to be careful not to cause
> trouble for that either.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 23:55:58 -0500
> From: Dale Alspach <alspachde at gmail.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Fwd: Re: Tracking a TIAA mixed fund account
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> I have two TIAA contracts which contain mutual funds and other similar
> investments. I have a top level asset account named Retirement and below
> that are asset accounts for each contract. Under each contract are accounts
> for each mutual fund, ETF, etc. As far as I am aware all TIAA funds now
> have symbols and quotes can be obtained from Yahoo. The only exception is
> the TIAA guaranteed or stable-value fund. For that one I use pseudo shares
> with 1 dollar = 1 share. So each underlying mutual fund is setup to use
> prices updated by finance-quote. I download transactions
> once a month from the TIAA site.
>
> To keep things organized I have separate income accounts for tax sheltered
> income and taxed income. Transactions
> under the Retirement account only affect the tax sheltered income accounts.
>
> Dale
>
> On Jul 22, 2017 10:38 PM, "AC" <gnucash at acarver.net> wrote:
>
> > I may be misunderstanding, but it seems like the following would work:
> > Assets:TIAA (cash)Assets:TIAA:Lifecycle 1
> (commodity)Assets:TIAA:Lifecycle
> > 2 (commodity)Assets:TIAA:TIAA Mutual Fund (commodity)
> > My experience of the so called "Lifecycle" funds is that they are just
> > like any other mutual funds.
> > When I handle payroll deductions, the dollars go into the cash account,
> > and a separate purchase transaction moves the cash into fund shares.
> It's a
> > little cumbersome, but it allows me to ensure that the right numbers get
> > in.
> > HTH, David
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 8:38, AC<gnucash at acarver.net> wrote: I want
> > to start tracking my TIAA retirement portfolio for informational
> > purposes (no reporting needs, filings, etc.) but I need some suggestions
> > on structuring the account trees so that it doesn't affect my existing
> > accounts. However, possibly later I'll edit things so that the paycheck
> > contributions are directed accordingly so I'd want the new accounts to
> > allow that eventually (i.e. for now I'll add contributions manually
> > using a virtual source and eventually go back through and move those to
> > withdraw from my paycheck, the amount withheld is already accounted)
> >
> > The trick with my TIAA portfolio is that it has three different products
> > within it. Two of them are TIAA funds (one of the lifecycle multi-asset
> > funds) that does not have a breakdown of the individual holdings (like a
> > mutual fund). These two only document the employer contributions, my
> > contributions, shares and interest/dividends. The third product is a
> > TIAA mutual fund for which the individual holdings are broken out with
> > all the same data as a typical mutual fund (shares, prices, etc.)
> >
> > What I expect to have is some type of top-level account that tracks the
> > overall value of the portfolio in dollars and then either within that or
> > somewhere nearby an account or account tree for each of the three
> > products. At first I had considered just making the two TIAA funds into
> > an account that was basically a mutual fund with a single holding but I
> > wasn't quite sure how to combine that with the one real mutual fund when
> > each of the three funds receives different amounts of contributions and
> > individual dividends. Perhaps it would be a top-level account then
> > three sub-accounts that are all mutual funds with two of them having one
> > holding and the last is the broken out holding?
> >
> > I don't plan on using this for any official reporting (I get those
> > documents already), and I don't plan on downloading statements, quotes,
> > or anything else. I'll just manually track things as my statements come
> > in and I enter the data from those, perhaps updating symbol share prices
> > manually if I'm interested at a particular time. I don't currently use
> > much reporting as is with my existing accounts except an occasional cash
> > flow report so as long as that isn't affected I'm fine. I do currently
> > have a mutual fund being tracked so I want to be careful not to cause
> > trouble for that either.
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:36:01 -0700
> From: AC <gnucash at acarver.net>
> To: "sunfish62 at yahoo.com" <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>, GnuCash users group
> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: Tracking a TIAA mixed fund account
> Message-ID: <38fdfd35-a62d-b039-1e00-d5e84e953d2e at acarver.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Seems like it might but what I want is to have the top level account
> (let's just call it TIAA) follow the entire value of the portfolio.
> Underneath that I want to see what the three individual funds are doing
> (the two lifecycles and the mutual). In the case of the lifecycle,
> you're correct that it sort of looks like a mutual fund except that I
> don't know what's actually inside it unlike a traditional MF where I
> know the individual distribution of shares that make up the overall MF.
>
> In this case then there would be three under TIAA, TIAA LC 1, TIAA LC2
> and TIAA MF and I would want to see the individual values (in dollars)
> of those three including the contributions to each, whatever dividends
> they earn and then, in the case of TIAA MF, I'd want to have the
> underlying distributions recorded just like a normal MF account.
>
> I suppose the sticky point is having the value tracking of the whole
> portfolio in addition to the individual fund values and then the MF
> distributions. Trying to get the cascade to work right.
>
> On 2017-07-22 21:17, David T. wrote:
> > I may be misunderstanding, but it seems like the following would work:
> >
> > Assets:TIAA (cash)
> > Assets:TIAA:Lifecycle 1 (commodity)
> > Assets:TIAA:Lifecycle 2 (commodity)
> > Assets:TIAA:TIAA Mutual Fund (commodity)
> >
> > My experience of the so called "Lifecycle" funds is that they are just
> like any
> > other mutual funds.
> >
> > When I handle payroll deductions, the dollars go into the cash account,
> and a
> > separate purchase transaction moves the cash into fund shares. It's a
> little
> > cumbersome, but it allows me to ensure that the right numbers get in.
> >
> > HTH,
> > David
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 8:38, AC
> > <gnucash at acarver.net> wrote:
> > I want to start tracking my TIAA retirement portfolio for
> informational
> > purposes (no reporting needs, filings, etc.) but I need some
> suggestions
> > on structuring the account trees so that it doesn't affect my
> existing
> > accounts. However, possibly later I'll edit things so that the
> paycheck
> > contributions are directed accordingly so I'd want the new accounts
> to
> > allow that eventually (i.e. for now I'll add contributions manually
> > using a virtual source and eventually go back through and move those
> to
> > withdraw from my paycheck, the amount withheld is already accounted)
> >
> > The trick with my TIAA portfolio is that it has three different
> products
> > within it. Two of them are TIAA funds (one of the lifecycle
> multi-asset
> > funds) that does not have a breakdown of the individual holdings
> (like a
> > mutual fund). These two only document the employer contributions, my
> > contributions, shares and interest/dividends. The third product is a
> > TIAA mutual fund for which the individual holdings are broken out
> with
> > all the same data as a typical mutual fund (shares, prices, etc.)
> >
> > What I expect to have is some type of top-level account that tracks
> the
> > overall value of the portfolio in dollars and then either within
> that or
> > somewhere nearby an account or account tree for each of the three
> > products. At first I had considered just making the two TIAA funds
> into
> > an account that was basically a mutual fund with a single holding
> but I
> > wasn't quite sure how to combine that with the one real mutual fund
> when
> > each of the three funds receives different amounts of contributions
> and
> > individual dividends. Perhaps it would be a top-level account then
> > three sub-accounts that are all mutual funds with two of them having
> one
> > holding and the last is the broken out holding?
> >
> > I don't plan on using this for any official reporting (I get those
> > documents already), and I don't plan on downloading statements,
> quotes,
> > or anything else. I'll just manually track things as my statements
> come
> > in and I enter the data from those, perhaps updating symbol share
> prices
> > manually if I'm interested at a particular time. I don't currently
> use
> > much reporting as is with my existing accounts except an occasional
> cash
> > flow report so as long as that isn't affected I'm fine. I do
> currently
> > have a mutual fund being tracked so I want to be careful not to cause
> > trouble for that either.
> > _______________________________________________
> > gnucash-user mailing list
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:40:52 -0700
> From: AC <gnucash at acarver.net>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Tracking a TIAA mixed fund account
> Message-ID: <bc64de82-7a83-b7f8-0263-43d0e31e8a4a at acarver.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Yes they do all have symbols but I have no plans to download the quotes
> directly from any source. What I'm asking about is setting up the
> account tree to track the numbers I'm looking for: total value of the
> whole portfolio, value of the individual products, and tracking of the
> underlying mutual fund distributions in the one particular MF product.
>
> So it's basically a cascade of accounts with a top level and multiple
> sublevels and I'm just trying to get that correct so that it doesn't
> cause issues with the rest of my accounts (mainly a cash flow report).
>
> On 2017-07-22 21:55, Dale Alspach wrote:
> > I have two TIAA contracts which contain mutual funds and other similar
> > investments. I have a top level asset account named Retirement and below
> > that are asset accounts for each contract. Under each contract are
> accounts
> > for each mutual fund, ETF, etc. As far as I am aware all TIAA funds now
> > have symbols and quotes can be obtained from Yahoo. The only exception is
> > the TIAA guaranteed or stable-value fund. For that one I use pseudo
> shares
> > with 1 dollar = 1 share. So each underlying mutual fund is setup to use
> > prices updated by finance-quote. I download transactions
> > once a month from the TIAA site.
> >
> > To keep things organized I have separate income accounts for tax
> sheltered
> > income and taxed income. Transactions
> > under the Retirement account only affect the tax sheltered income
> accounts.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> > On Jul 22, 2017 10:38 PM, "AC" <gnucash at acarver.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I may be misunderstanding, but it seems like the following would work:
> >> Assets:TIAA (cash)Assets:TIAA:Lifecycle 1
> (commodity)Assets:TIAA:Lifecycle
> >> 2 (commodity)Assets:TIAA:TIAA Mutual Fund (commodity)
> >> My experience of the so called "Lifecycle" funds is that they are just
> >> like any other mutual funds.
> >> When I handle payroll deductions, the dollars go into the cash account,
> >> and a separate purchase transaction moves the cash into fund shares.
> It's a
> >> little cumbersome, but it allows me to ensure that the right numbers get
> >> in.
> >> HTH, David
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 8:38, AC<gnucash at acarver.net> wrote: I want
> >> to start tracking my TIAA retirement portfolio for informational
> >> purposes (no reporting needs, filings, etc.) but I need some suggestions
> >> on structuring the account trees so that it doesn't affect my existing
> >> accounts. However, possibly later I'll edit things so that the paycheck
> >> contributions are directed accordingly so I'd want the new accounts to
> >> allow that eventually (i.e. for now I'll add contributions manually
> >> using a virtual source and eventually go back through and move those to
> >> withdraw from my paycheck, the amount withheld is already accounted)
> >>
> >> The trick with my TIAA portfolio is that it has three different products
> >> within it. Two of them are TIAA funds (one of the lifecycle multi-asset
> >> funds) that does not have a breakdown of the individual holdings (like a
> >> mutual fund). These two only document the employer contributions, my
> >> contributions, shares and interest/dividends. The third product is a
> >> TIAA mutual fund for which the individual holdings are broken out with
> >> all the same data as a typical mutual fund (shares, prices, etc.)
> >>
> >> What I expect to have is some type of top-level account that tracks the
> >> overall value of the portfolio in dollars and then either within that or
> >> somewhere nearby an account or account tree for each of the three
> >> products. At first I had considered just making the two TIAA funds into
> >> an account that was basically a mutual fund with a single holding but I
> >> wasn't quite sure how to combine that with the one real mutual fund when
> >> each of the three funds receives different amounts of contributions and
> >> individual dividends. Perhaps it would be a top-level account then
> >> three sub-accounts that are all mutual funds with two of them having one
> >> holding and the last is the broken out holding?
> >>
> >> I don't plan on using this for any official reporting (I get those
> >> documents already), and I don't plan on downloading statements, quotes,
> >> or anything else. I'll just manually track things as my statements come
> >> in and I enter the data from those, perhaps updating symbol share prices
> >> manually if I'm interested at a particular time. I don't currently use
> >> much reporting as is with my existing accounts except an occasional cash
> >> flow report so as long as that isn't affected I'm fine. I do currently
> >> have a mutual fund being tracked so I want to be careful not to cause
> >> trouble for that either.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> gnucash-user mailing list
> >> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 12:42:45 +0500
> From: "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> To: AC <gnucash at acarver.net>
> Cc: GnuCash users group <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: Tracking a TIAA mixed fund account
> Message-ID: <16E28FEC-93D0-4EA6-939F-BAF01A758DD1 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> The proposed structure is set up precisely as you want, down to the
> naming, and it will show total portfolio. At least it does for me.
>
> Personally, I don?t know the precise share holdings for any of the mutual
> funds I own, so the Lifecycle funds are, for me, exactly the same.
>
> David
>
> P.S. Dale?s comment about the income accounts is useful, and what I do as
> well.
>
> > On Jul 23, 2017, at 10:36 AM, AC <gnucash at acarver.net> wrote:
> >
> > Seems like it might but what I want is to have the top level account
> > (let's just call it TIAA) follow the entire value of the portfolio.
> > Underneath that I want to see what the three individual funds are doing
> > (the two lifecycles and the mutual). In the case of the lifecycle,
> > you're correct that it sort of looks like a mutual fund except that I
> > don't know what's actually inside it unlike a traditional MF where I
> > know the individual distribution of shares that make up the overall MF.
> >
> > In this case then there would be three under TIAA, TIAA LC 1, TIAA LC2
> > and TIAA MF and I would want to see the individual values (in dollars)
> > of those three including the contributions to each, whatever dividends
> > they earn and then, in the case of TIAA MF, I'd want to have the
> > underlying distributions recorded just like a normal MF account.
> >
> > I suppose the sticky point is having the value tracking of the whole
> > portfolio in addition to the individual fund values and then the MF
> > distributions. Trying to get the cascade to work right.
> >
> > On 2017-07-22 21:17, David T. wrote:
> >> I may be misunderstanding, but it seems like the following would work:
> >>
> >> Assets:TIAA (cash)
> >> Assets:TIAA:Lifecycle 1 (commodity)
> >> Assets:TIAA:Lifecycle 2 (commodity)
> >> Assets:TIAA:TIAA Mutual Fund (commodity)
> >>
> >> My experience of the so called "Lifecycle" funds is that they are just
> like any
> >> other mutual funds.
> >>
> >> When I handle payroll deductions, the dollars go into the cash account,
> and a
> >> separate purchase transaction moves the cash into fund shares. It's a
> little
> >> cumbersome, but it allows me to ensure that the right numbers get in.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> David
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 8:38, AC
> >> <gnucash at acarver.net> wrote:
> >> I want to start tracking my TIAA retirement portfolio for
> informational
> >> purposes (no reporting needs, filings, etc.) but I need some
> suggestions
> >> on structuring the account trees so that it doesn't affect my
> existing
> >> accounts. However, possibly later I'll edit things so that the
> paycheck
> >> contributions are directed accordingly so I'd want the new accounts
> to
> >> allow that eventually (i.e. for now I'll add contributions manually
> >> using a virtual source and eventually go back through and move those
> to
> >> withdraw from my paycheck, the amount withheld is already accounted)
> >>
> >> The trick with my TIAA portfolio is that it has three different
> products
> >> within it. Two of them are TIAA funds (one of the lifecycle
> multi-asset
> >> funds) that does not have a breakdown of the individual holdings
> (like a
> >> mutual fund). These two only document the employer contributions, my
> >> contributions, shares and interest/dividends. The third product is a
> >> TIAA mutual fund for which the individual holdings are broken out
> with
> >> all the same data as a typical mutual fund (shares, prices, etc.)
> >>
> >> What I expect to have is some type of top-level account that tracks
> the
> >> overall value of the portfolio in dollars and then either within
> that or
> >> somewhere nearby an account or account tree for each of the three
> >> products. At first I had considered just making the two TIAA funds
> into
> >> an account that was basically a mutual fund with a single holding
> but I
> >> wasn't quite sure how to combine that with the one real mutual fund
> when
> >> each of the three funds receives different amounts of contributions
> and
> >> individual dividends. Perhaps it would be a top-level account then
> >> three sub-accounts that are all mutual funds with two of them having
> one
> >> holding and the last is the broken out holding?
> >>
> >> I don't plan on using this for any official reporting (I get those
> >> documents already), and I don't plan on downloading statements,
> quotes,
> >> or anything else. I'll just manually track things as my statements
> come
> >> in and I enter the data from those, perhaps updating symbol share
> prices
> >> manually if I'm interested at a particular time. I don't currently
> use
> >> much reporting as is with my existing accounts except an occasional
> cash
> >> flow report so as long as that isn't affected I'm fine. I do
> currently
> >> have a mutual fund being tracked so I want to be careful not to cause
> >> trouble for that either.
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