Inability to correct GBP value for Euro priced shares
Maf. King
maf at chilwell.net
Thu Jun 8 10:04:09 EDT 2017
Hi Eric,
Are you sure you're getting the correct price for the shares?
There's a stock called AIR which is (presently) USD 34.64, and given the
current $/£ rate makes 89 shares worth around £4k.
You may be after the stock AIR.PA, showing right now as €73.50
gnc-fq-dump yahoo_europe AIR.PA
Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
symbol: AIR.PA <=== required
date: 06/08/2017 <=== recommended
currency: EUR <=== required
last: 73.50 <=\
nav: <=== one of these
price: 73.50 <=/
timezone: <=== optional
HTH,
Maf.
On Thursday, 8 June 2017 14:36:07 BST Eric Coates wrote:
> 8th June 2017
>
> I’m having trouble with getting a valuation (in pounds sterling –
> hereafter GBP – I am based in the UK) for a share I own that is priced
> in Euros.
>
> To bore you with the details my original account listing was of this form:
>
> Assets
>
> >My Assets
> >
> >>My Portfolio
> >>
> >>>My Cash
> >>>
> >>>My Shares
> >>>
> >>>>Airbus Group
> >>>>
> >>>> Standard GBP denominated shares
>
> etc etc
>
> At this point everything except “Airbus Group” was denominated in GBPs,
> Airbus Group was denominated in Euros.
>
> I noticed the problem when I realised that value of the Airbus Group
> shares (in the column headed "Present(GBP)"was given as £3989 but the
> real value should be 89(the number of shares)*€73.07(the value of each
> share)*0.87(the Euro to GBP exchange rate) ie £5658. (All the numbers
> are rounded.)
>
> Using the information I found during various web searches (insofar as I
> understood it all) it seemed the problem might be that the account “My
> Shares” was denominated in GBP but “Airbus Group” is denominated in
> Euros. I modified the account structure to the following form:
>
> Assets
>
> >My Assets
> >
> >>My Portfolio
> >>
> >>>My Cash
> >>>
> >>>>Cash Euros
> >>>>
> >>>>Cash Pounds
> >>>
> >>>My Eurex Shares
> >>>
> >>>>Airbus Group
> >>>
> >>>My LSE Shares
> >>>
> >>>> Standard GBP denominated shares
>
> etc etc
>
> With “Cash Euros”, “My Eurex Shares” and “Airbus Group” denominated in
> Euros, everything else is denominated in GBPs.
>
> I transferred some funds from “Cash Pounds” to “Cash Euros”; the
> original “Airbus Group” was deleted and a new account was reconstituted
> (there were very few entries) with the purchase made from “Cash Euros”.
>
> The result was that the GBP value of the Airbus shares was (still) shown
> as £3989.
>
> More web searches revealed nothing that I recognised as of relevance.
>
> The only thoughts that I have that may be significant are:
> (A) “Cash Euros” and “Airbus Group”, although denominated in Euros, are
> deep(ish) in a tree denominated in GBPs and, in particular, “Cash Euros”
> is a sub-account of “My Cash” which is denominated in GBPs. Does this
> somehow interfere with the correct accounting?
>
> (B) My broker pays Airbus dividends to me in GBPs and thus some of the
> transactions in the “Airbus Group” account reference the “Cash Pounds”
> account. If this is the problem: assuming the dividend I receive is
> £12.34 would it be possible to credit €12.34 to “Cash Euro” and transfer
> it to “Cash Pounds” at an exchange rate of 1:1 without screwing up
> something else?
>
> I suppose I could just live with the “error” but what is accounting
> without accuracy!
>
> A separate set of accounts for one share seems too much like overkill.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help or advice offered.
>
>
> Eric Coates
>
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