[GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
William Bixby
wbixby at usa.net
Tue Apr 10 21:44:15 EDT 2018
Interesting, in my emails from Gnucash I do not see any headers with tags
mailing-list
mailed-by
On most of them I see a tag
List-id
But that is not a field I can filter on from my ISP
In this message from Dave I see my email as the to: and
Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org as the CC: but there is no List-id
The only lists I see in my inbox today with a mailing-list tag are from
yahoo-groups.
So the filters Dave suggests would be incomplete, a CC is also needed.
Maybe also a 'From' just to be sure?
The emails from the list seem to have a variety of header forms, perhaps
depending on the mailers used for the reply, or the reply-to or
reply-list or reply-all forms. Seems hard to keep track of all the
possibilities.
Instead of requiring 2-3 or more filters for each list, the subject code
allows a single filter to do the job, consistently, never misses.
On 04/10/2018 08:43 PM, Dave H wrote:
> The headers include :-
>
> to: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>
> mailing list: gnucash-user at gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> mailed-by: gnucash.org <http://gnucash.org>
>
> if those aren't sufficient to filter on what is :-)
>
> Cheers Dave H.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11 April 2018 at 10:11, William Bixby <wbixby at usa.net
> <mailto:wbixby at usa.net>> wrote:
>
> Adrien, my headers for your message show this email is from you, not
> the list:
> From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net
> <mailto:adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>>
> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\))
> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:17:55 -0500
> To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
> List-Id: General Accounting Discussions <gnucash-user.gnucash.org
> <http://gnucash-user.gnucash.org>>
>
>
>
>
> On 04/10/2018 06:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>
> The mail already *is* from the list.
>
> This can get flubbed when people start using reply-all and
> leaving the original senders in the mix. As this continues in
> the thread, individual e-mail addresses start bouncing around
> between To and CC and the list address usually gets relegated to
> CC permanently. But it doesn’t matter because one can always set
> their filters to include To, CC and From (if not also, or
> instead, reply-to) and there should be no issue.
>
> There is a case for reply-all, but it involves cross-posted
> messages (to other lists) or one-off participants who aren’t
> list members. This is pretty rare here. (Occasionally you’ll see
> a message posted on both -dev and -user but not often and so
> many are on both) I don’t think I’ve seen any cross-postings to
> outside lists. On the off chance a non-member participates (with
> moderator approval) it would likely be obvious and you could
> include their personal address.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Dale Alspach
> <alspachde at gmail.com <mailto:alspachde at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Question for those who want the [GNC] prefix:
> Would having the email from be from the list
> (gnucash-user at gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>)
> instead of the user (original sender) serve as well?
>
> This would also help with the "remember to reply to the
> list" issue. Reply,
> Reply-all, Reply-list would include the list address.
> I believe the mailing list software would still put the
> original sender
> address in the headers so that an off-list reply would be
> possible.
>
> Some view this type of address munging as being bad but I
> believe that in
> the case of gnucash-user this is the de facto preference of
> the maintainers
> and developers.
>
> Dale
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Rich Shepard
> <rshepard at appl-ecosys.com <mailto:rshepard at appl-ecosys.com>>
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, listreader wrote:
>
> Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it
> means. In my
>
> experience, far more people are likely to complain
> about 'changes' they
> don't like than are people who approve or are
> neutral about the same
> 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater.
>
>
> Please add my vote to the neutral category. I
> subscribe to about a dozen
> mail lists, most use a list-related prefix in brackets;
> a couple don't.
> Because incoming messages are sorted into list-specific
> files the only time
> the prepended tags matter is when multiple lists cover
> the same topic.
>
> GnuCash is the only bookkeeping application I use so
> a prepended tag
> makes
> no difference to me. But, for those who don't
> automatically sort incoming
> messages it could well be helpful.
>
> If having it present does no harm there's no reason
> to remove it, in my
> opinion. If you're reading e-mail on a phone, watch, or
> other small device
> and cannot see the entire subject line you probably have
> the ability to
> scroll horizontally as well as vertically.
>
> Rich
>
--
Bill Bixby
Laconia NH
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