[GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix

William Bixby wbixby at usa.net
Tue Apr 10 21:44:15 EDT 2018


Interesting, in my emails from Gnucash I do not see any headers with tags
mailing-list
mailed-by

On most of them I see a tag
List-id
But that is not a field I can filter on from my ISP

In this message from Dave I see my email as the to: and
Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org  as the CC: but there is no List-id

The only lists I see in my inbox today with a mailing-list tag are from 
yahoo-groups.

So the filters Dave suggests would be incomplete, a CC is also needed.
Maybe also a 'From' just to be sure?

The emails from the list seem to have a variety of header forms, perhaps 
depending on the mailers used for the reply, or the reply-to or 
reply-list or reply-all forms. Seems hard to keep track of all the 
possibilities.

Instead of requiring 2-3 or more filters for each list, the subject code 
allows a single filter to do the job, consistently, never misses.

On 04/10/2018 08:43 PM, Dave H wrote:
> The headers include :-
> 
>                to:    Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org 
> <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>
> mailing list: gnucash-user at gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> mailed-by: gnucash.org <http://gnucash.org>
> 
> if those aren't sufficient to filter on what is :-)
> 
> Cheers Dave H.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11 April 2018 at 10:11, William Bixby <wbixby at usa.net 
> <mailto:wbixby at usa.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Adrien, my headers for your message show this email is from you, not
>     the list:
>     From:  Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net
>     <mailto:adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>>
>     Mime-Version:  1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\))
>     Date:  Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:17:55 -0500
>     To:  Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>     <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>
>     Subject:  Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
>     List-Id:  General Accounting Discussions <gnucash-user.gnucash.org
>     <http://gnucash-user.gnucash.org>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     On 04/10/2018 06:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> 
>         The mail already *is* from the list.
> 
>         This can get flubbed when people start using reply-all and
>         leaving the original senders in the mix. As this continues in
>         the thread, individual e-mail addresses start bouncing around
>         between To and CC and the list address usually gets relegated to
>         CC permanently. But it doesn’t matter because one can always set
>         their filters to include To, CC and From (if not also, or
>         instead, reply-to) and there should be no issue.
> 
>         There is a case for reply-all, but it involves cross-posted
>         messages (to other lists) or one-off participants who aren’t
>         list members. This is pretty rare here. (Occasionally you’ll see
>         a message posted on both -dev and -user but not often and so
>         many are on both) I don’t think I’ve seen any cross-postings to
>         outside lists. On the off chance a non-member participates (with
>         moderator approval) it would likely be obvious and you could
>         include their personal address.
> 
>         Regards,
>         Adrien
> 
>             On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Dale Alspach
>             <alspachde at gmail.com <mailto:alspachde at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>             Question for those who want the [GNC] prefix:
>             Would having the email from be from the list
>             (gnucash-user at gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>)
>             instead of the user (original sender) serve as well?
> 
>             This would also help with the "remember to reply to the
>             list" issue. Reply,
>             Reply-all, Reply-list would include the list address.
>             I believe the mailing list software would still put the
>             original sender
>             address in the headers so that an off-list reply would be
>             possible.
> 
>             Some view this type of address munging as being bad but I
>             believe that in
>             the case of gnucash-user this is the de facto preference of
>             the maintainers
>             and developers.
> 
>             Dale
> 
> 
>             On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Rich Shepard
>             <rshepard at appl-ecosys.com <mailto:rshepard at appl-ecosys.com>>
>             wrote:
> 
>                 On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, listreader wrote:
> 
>                 Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it
>                 means. In my
> 
>                     experience, far more people are likely to complain
>                     about 'changes' they
>                     don't like than are people who approve or are
>                     neutral about the same
>                     'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater.
> 
> 
>                    Please add my vote to the neutral category. I
>                 subscribe to about a dozen
>                 mail lists, most use a list-related prefix in brackets;
>                 a couple don't.
>                 Because incoming messages are sorted into list-specific
>                 files the only time
>                 the prepended tags matter is when multiple lists cover
>                 the same topic.
> 
>                    GnuCash is the only bookkeeping application I use so
>                 a prepended tag
>                 makes
>                 no difference to me. But, for those who don't
>                 automatically sort incoming
>                 messages it could well be helpful.
> 
>                    If having it present does no harm there's no reason
>                 to remove it, in my
>                 opinion. If you're reading e-mail on a phone, watch, or
>                 other small device
>                 and cannot see the entire subject line you probably have
>                 the ability to
>                 scroll horizontally as well as vertically.
> 
>                 Rich
> 

-- 
Bill Bixby
Laconia NH


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