[GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
Adrien Monteleone
adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net
Tue Apr 10 23:46:25 EDT 2018
My copy of that message shows Dave copied you directly, you’re probably looking at that version which is why there are no associated list headers.
You don’t need three separate filters. I attached a screenshot of the rules I set way back earlier in the thread. (as have others)
the tl;dr is you just set three ‘any’ conditions, one each on To, CC, and From ‘contains’ ‘gnucash-user’ then either tag or file away as desired. You could probably even manage something that pre-pends the [GNC] if you like.
It’s not difficult.
We’re all people using double entry accounting for crying out loud. If we can manage that, we can manage e-mail filtering and tagging.
Regards,
Adrien
> On Apr 10, 2018, at 8:44 PM, William Bixby <wbixby at usa.net> wrote:
>
> Interesting, in my emails from Gnucash I do not see any headers with tags
> mailing-list
> mailed-by
>
> On most of them I see a tag
> List-id
> But that is not a field I can filter on from my ISP
>
> In this message from Dave I see my email as the to: and
> Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org as the CC: but there is no List-id
>
> The only lists I see in my inbox today with a mailing-list tag are from yahoo-groups.
>
> So the filters Dave suggests would be incomplete, a CC is also needed.
> Maybe also a 'From' just to be sure?
>
> The emails from the list seem to have a variety of header forms, perhaps depending on the mailers used for the reply, or the reply-to or reply-list or reply-all forms. Seems hard to keep track of all the possibilities.
>
> Instead of requiring 2-3 or more filters for each list, the subject code allows a single filter to do the job, consistently, never misses.
>
> On 04/10/2018 08:43 PM, Dave H wrote:
>> The headers include :-
>> to: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>
>> mailing list: gnucash-user at gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>> mailed-by: gnucash.org <http://gnucash.org>
>> if those aren't sufficient to filter on what is :-)
>> Cheers Dave H.
>> On 11 April 2018 at 10:11, William Bixby <wbixby at usa.net <mailto:wbixby at usa.net>> wrote:
>> Adrien, my headers for your message show this email is from you, not
>> the list:
>> From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net
>> <mailto:adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>>
>> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\))
>> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:17:55 -0500
>> To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>> <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Addition of Mailing List Subject Prefix
>> List-Id: General Accounting Discussions <gnucash-user.gnucash.org
>> <http://gnucash-user.gnucash.org>>
>> On 04/10/2018 06:17 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> The mail already *is* from the list.
>> This can get flubbed when people start using reply-all and
>> leaving the original senders in the mix. As this continues in
>> the thread, individual e-mail addresses start bouncing around
>> between To and CC and the list address usually gets relegated to
>> CC permanently. But it doesn’t matter because one can always set
>> their filters to include To, CC and From (if not also, or
>> instead, reply-to) and there should be no issue.
>> There is a case for reply-all, but it involves cross-posted
>> messages (to other lists) or one-off participants who aren’t
>> list members. This is pretty rare here. (Occasionally you’ll see
>> a message posted on both -dev and -user but not often and so
>> many are on both) I don’t think I’ve seen any cross-postings to
>> outside lists. On the off chance a non-member participates (with
>> moderator approval) it would likely be obvious and you could
>> include their personal address.
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Dale Alspach
>> <alspachde at gmail.com <mailto:alspachde at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Question for those who want the [GNC] prefix:
>> Would having the email from be from the list
>> (gnucash-user at gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>)
>> instead of the user (original sender) serve as well?
>> This would also help with the "remember to reply to the
>> list" issue. Reply,
>> Reply-all, Reply-list would include the list address.
>> I believe the mailing list software would still put the
>> original sender
>> address in the headers so that an off-list reply would be
>> possible.
>> Some view this type of address munging as being bad but I
>> believe that in
>> the case of gnucash-user this is the de facto preference of
>> the maintainers
>> and developers.
>> Dale
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Rich Shepard
>> <rshepard at appl-ecosys.com <mailto:rshepard at appl-ecosys.com>>
>> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, listreader wrote:
>> Your tally probably doesn't mean what you think it
>> means. In my
>> experience, far more people are likely to complain
>> about 'changes' they
>> don't like than are people who approve or are
>> neutral about the same
>> 'changes'. Like on a ratio of 10 to 1 or greater.
>> Please add my vote to the neutral category. I
>> subscribe to about a dozen
>> mail lists, most use a list-related prefix in brackets;
>> a couple don't.
>> Because incoming messages are sorted into list-specific
>> files the only time
>> the prepended tags matter is when multiple lists cover
>> the same topic.
>> GnuCash is the only bookkeeping application I use so
>> a prepended tag
>> makes
>> no difference to me. But, for those who don't
>> automatically sort incoming
>> messages it could well be helpful.
>> If having it present does no harm there's no reason
>> to remove it, in my
>> opinion. If you're reading e-mail on a phone, watch, or
>> other small device
>> and cannot see the entire subject line you probably have
>> the ability to
>> scroll horizontally as well as vertically.
>> Rich
>
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