[GNC] New Balsheet (and P&L report)
Stephen M. Butler
kg7je at arrl.net
Tue Jun 26 13:18:21 EDT 2018
Have you read https://www.mscs.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial.html
and the companion https://www.mscs.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html?
I finished both last night and am working through chapter 12 of the
current guide. I think it is an accounting setup issue more than a
reporting issue. And our sample company is setup wrong based on what I
read.
On 06/25/2018 09:03 PM, Christopher Lam wrote:
> Hi Stephen
>
> Thank you for valuable feedback... all these issues are cosmetic /
> account selection, and are relatively trivial.... except that
> Placeholder accounts can also contain transactions therefore must not
> necessarily accumulate their children account amounts.
>
> My major concern relates to switching amounts to a so-called "Report
> Currency". But IMO this leads to balance sheets to being confused with
> 'stock valuation'
>
> The existing balance sheet offers weighted-average, average-cost,
> nearest, latest. AFAIU weighted-average and average-cost obtains
> prices from the actual transactions; nearest means 'use price nearest
> to report-date', and latest means 'use today's nearest price'
>
> Let's say I bought:
> 100 AAPL at $10 in 2006, and
> 50 AAPL at $20 in 2009; and
> AAPL was $110 in 2015
> AAPL is about $180 in 2018
>
> I'm wanting stock valuation in 2015.
> - original currency - shows 150 AAPL, no price conversion (i.e. simplest)
> - cost price - 100x$10 + 50x$20 = $2000 (labour intensive because each
> stock transaction must be analysed, and converted using any available
> price entry to the report currency)
> - nearest - 150x$110 = $16,500 (simple)
> - latest - 150x$180 = $27,000 (also simple)
>
> Please check latest showing balsheet multicolumn amounts converted to
> report currency; although they're esthetically nice, this has
> increased the level of complexity a magnitude a tad too high... (I
> wouldn't know how/if income/expense amounts can/must be subject to
> price conversion...)
>
> I'd be keen to remove price conversion to report currency myself...
>
>
> On 26 June 2018 at 03:34, Stephen M. Butler <kg7je at arrl.net
> <mailto:kg7je at arrl.net>> wrote:
>
> Christopher,
>
> I am attaching the three balance sheet reports available from
> within GNC
> for both our test company and for my apartment building. Of the
> three,
> the accountant likes the layout and totals of the eguile version
> the best.
>
> Her specific comments regarding the Multicolumn (pnl) are:
>
> 1. Not unheard of to compare this year-to-date with last year-ti-date
> on a balance sheet (and income/expense) report. Less likely to be
> beginning period/end period. Most generally only done for last report
> of the year (to compare back to prior year). She prefers the single
> point-in-time version for personal and small company finances.
>
> 2. Placeholder accounts should not show $0.00. Their true value
> is the
> total for their level.
>
> 3. The dates should not be repeated for each section of the report.
> Once at the top is enough.
>
> 4. Equity is the same as Net Worth. Its total should include:
> a. Equity account totals
> b. Trading account totals (if there are no trading accounts,
> suppress that portion)
> c. Period to date Profit/Loss which should match the (Income -
> Expense) from the Income Statement.
>
> 5. Assets = Liabilities + Equity and the total of Liabilities and
> Equity should be shown and match the total of Assets.
>
> 6. Put in the column underlines for the totals as is done on the
> eguile
> version. Then you can remove the "Total for XXX" labels as it will be
> obvious it is a total.
>
>
> Now, for our test company, I think we have a problem with the GPB
> valuations. We haven't done any bookkeeping with multiple
> currencies.
> So will need input from somebody else.
>
>
>
> Stephen M Butler, PMP, PSM
> Stephen.M.Butler51 at gmail.com <mailto:Stephen.M.Butler51 at gmail.com>
> kg7je at arrl.net <mailto:kg7je at arrl.net>
> 253-350-0166
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> On 06/25/2018 06:56 AM, Christopher Lam wrote:
> > Seeking beta testers.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash/tree/maint-balsheet-pnl
> <https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash/tree/maint-balsheet-pnl>
> >
> > Or, anyone with v3.2 onwards can copy the file directly into the
> > build's standard-reports folder:
> >
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/christopherlam/gnucash/maint-balsheet-pnl/gnucash/report/standard-reports/balsheet-pnl.scm
> <https://raw.githubusercontent.com/christopherlam/gnucash/maint-balsheet-pnl/gnucash/report/standard-reports/balsheet-pnl.scm>
> >
> > Adds new balsheet and income statement (i.e. Profit&Loss) report. I
> > still have further ideas in the pipeline, just wish to check
> accuracy
> > of amounts produced. Not all options have been implemented.
> >
> > C
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