[GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

Mon Apr 8 20:40:46 EDT 2019

Just a coupe of questions,

1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain backward
compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?

2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?

Kind regards,

Greg Feneis

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United States),
> The Location is United States. The current language for non-Unicode
> programs is English (United States)
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>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>
>
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> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
>
>> Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
>>
>> What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
>> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is
>> your userid an Administrator?
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > John,
>> >
>> > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the
>> Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this
>> path and file name:
>> > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
>> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
>> Dropbox, Failure!)
>> > The error message reads:
>> > "You attempted to save in
>> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
>> use....Please try again in a different directory. (close).
>> >
>> > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you
>> spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
>> > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128
>> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
>> >
>> > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving
>> within the windows user folder?
>> >
>> > Things are getting curiouser
>> >
>> >
>> > Kind regards,¯¯
>> > Greg
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
>> > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you
>> create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
>> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
>> >
>> > I was able to successfully save
>> > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
>> > and its log file
>> > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > John Ralls
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter path
>> than 2.6.x did:
>> > >
>> > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with
>> it, but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what
>> worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used
>> spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length,
>> but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
>> > >
>> > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
>> > >
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
>> Success!
>> > >
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash
>> (65 chars) Failure!
>> > >
>> > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to
>> G and still got the same problem
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars)
>> Failure!
>> > >
>> > > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to
>> GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character count
>> that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is
>> slightly different.
>> > > "You attempted to save in
>> [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
>> use....Please try again in a different directory. (close)."  See screen
>> shot here
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
>> > > This was the actual attempted path:
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
>> Failure! although same char count
>> > >
>> > > More testing:
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)
>> Failure!
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
>> > >
>> > > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max character
>> count go up?
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars) Success!
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars) Success!
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars)
>> Success!  (confirming results from beginning of this email)
>> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash
>> (66 chars) Success!
>> > >
>> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
>> (83 chars) Success!
>> > >
>> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
>> (100 chars) Success!
>> > >
>> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLongPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
>> (145 chars) Success!
>> > >
>> > > I'm not going to test to failure on this folder count, but it sure
>> looks like something about GnuCash 3.5 limits the path based on folder
>> count and path character count.  If I use a 5 folder path, max path
>> character count is 46.  If I used a 4 folder path, I've tested up to 145
>> characters.
>> > >
>> > > Hope this helps.
>> > >
>> > > Kind regards,
>> > >
>> > > Greg
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Hi John,
>> > >
>> > > The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used
>> 2.6.x to save to the same location without trouble.
>> > >
>> > > The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:
>> > >
>> > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)
>> > >
>> > > The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash 2.6.21,
>> and was:
>> > >
>> > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log  (4/1/2019
>> 8:01AM)
>> > >
>> > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash (4/1/2019 7:59AM)
>> > >
>> > > Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving the file
>> name test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same error.  So I went
>> one folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same way.  I kept
>> shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did save, which was
>> as follows:
>> > >
>> > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash
>> > >
>> > > Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path
>> exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand, and I
>> still get the the same problem.
>> > >
>> > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
>>  fails just like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
>> > >
>> > > A screen shot of the error
>> > >
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd8rlgj1kvv0ysn/2019-04-05_18-37-52.png?dl=0
>> > >
>> > > Next, I copied the original folder so I could make a test path
>> exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no spaces in the
>> folder names and no ampersand, and I still get the same problem.  However,
>> this time, when gnucash tried to display the path in the error message, it
>> got some of it right.
>> > >
>> > > A screen shot of that is here:
>> > >
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3p0agpdlkmzia4/2019-04-05_18-52-26.png?dl=0
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Kind regards,
>> > >
>> > > Greg
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:14 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
>> wrote:
>> > > That's interesting. What is the path that's causing trouble with 3.5,
>> and please remind me what OS you're using.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > John Ralls
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > There's a problem with 3.5 where it won't save to the usual
>> location that I
>> > > > have saved the file to when I was using 2.6.x  For some reason 3.5
>> has a
>> > > > problem with path length.  I never had a problem with 2.6.21, I just
>> > > > thought I should keep up to the latest in case I wanted to ask for
>> help
>> > > > with it.  But since it's going to give me trouble, I'll just go
>> back to
>> > > > 2.6.21, so long as it will work with the file that was previously
>> saved by
>> > > > 3.5.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Kind regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 7:09 PM Fross, Michael <michael at fross.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading?  What have
>> you found
>> > > >> that you prefer in 2.6.21?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Michael
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> Hi,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering downgrading to
>> 2.6.21.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was changed
>> and saved
>> > > >>> by
>> > > >>> 3.5?
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Kind regards,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Greg
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