[GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

Greg Feneis mfeneis at gmail.com
Tue Apr 9 15:42:27 EDT 2019 

So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we haven't ruled
out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So it's
probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.




Kind regards,

Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>




On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:

> Greg,
>
> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier releases
> in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x features you use.
>
> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug tracker, file a
> bug.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just a coupe of questions,
> >
> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain backward
> compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
> >
> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Greg Feneis
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United States),
> The Location is United States. The current language for non-Unicode
> programs is English (United States)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Greg Feneis
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> > Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
> >
> > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is
> your userid an Administrator?
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the
> Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this
> path and file name:
> > > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
> Dropbox, Failure!)
> > > The error message reads:
> > > "You attempted to save in
> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
> use....Please try again in a different directory. (close).
> > >
> > > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you
> spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
> > > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128
> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
> > >
> > > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving
> within the windows user folder?
> > >
> > > Things are getting curiouser
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind regards,¯¯
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> > > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you
> create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
> > >
> > > I was able to successfully save
> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> > > and its log file
> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John Ralls
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter
> path than 2.6.x did:
> > > >
> > > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with
> it, but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what
> worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used
> spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length,
> but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> > > >
> > > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> > > >
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> Success!
> > > >
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash
> (65 chars) Failure!
> > > >
> > > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to
> G and still got the same problem
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars)
> Failure!
> > > >
> > > > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to
> GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character count
> that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is
> slightly different.
> > > > "You attempted to save in
> [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
> use....Please try again in a different directory. (close)."  See screen
> shot here
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
> > > > This was the actual attempted path:
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> Failure! although same char count
> > > >
> > > > More testing:
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)
> Failure!
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
> > > >
> > > > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max
> character count go up?
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars) Success!
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars) Success!
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars)
> Success!  (confirming results from beginning of this email)
> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash
> (66 chars) Success!
> > > >
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> (83 chars) Success!
> > > >
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> (100 chars) Success!
> > > >
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLongPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> (145 chars) Success!
> > > >
> > > > I'm not going to test to failure on this folder count, but it sure
> looks like something about GnuCash 3.5 limits the path based on folder
> count and path character count.  If I use a 5 folder path, max path
> character count is 46.  If I used a 4 folder path, I've tested up to 145
> characters.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > Hi John,
> > > >
> > > > The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used
> 2.6.x to save to the same location without trouble.
> > > >
> > > > The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:
> > > >
> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)
> > > >
> > > > The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash 2.6.21,
> and was:
> > > >
> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log  (4/1/2019
> 8:01AM)
> > > >
> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash (4/1/2019 7:59AM)
> > > >
> > > > Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving the
> file name test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same error.  So I
> went one folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same way.  I
> kept shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did save,
> which was as follows:
> > > >
> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash
> > > >
> > > > Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path
> exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand, and I
> still get the the same problem.
> > > >
> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
>  fails just like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
> > > >
> > > > A screen shot of the error
> > > >
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd8rlgj1kvv0ysn/2019-04-05_18-37-52.png?dl=0
> > > >
> > > > Next, I copied the original folder so I could make a test path
> exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no spaces in the
> folder names and no ampersand, and I still get the same problem.  However,
> this time, when gnucash tried to display the path in the error message, it
> got some of it right.
> > > >
> > > > A screen shot of that is here:
> > > >
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3p0agpdlkmzia4/2019-04-05_18-52-26.png?dl=0
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:14 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> wrote:
> > > > That's interesting. What is the path that's causing trouble with
> 3.5, and please remind me what OS you're using.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > John Ralls
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > There's a problem with 3.5 where it won't save to the usual
> location that I
> > > > > have saved the file to when I was using 2.6.x  For some reason 3.5
> has a
> > > > > problem with path length.  I never had a problem with 2.6.21, I
> just
> > > > > thought I should keep up to the latest in case I wanted to ask for
> help
> > > > > with it.  But since it's going to give me trouble, I'll just go
> back to
> > > > > 2.6.21, so long as it will work with the file that was previously
> saved by
> > > > > 3.5.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 7:09 PM Fross, Michael <michael at fross.org>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading?  What have
> you found
> > > > >> that you prefer in 2.6.21?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Michael
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering downgrading to
> 2.6.21.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was changed
> and saved
> > > > >>> by
> > > > >>> 3.5?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Kind regards,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Greg
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