[GNC] Balance Sheet Report keeps listing all my individual stocks

Wed Jan 2 00:03:10 EST 2019

Stephen,

I am glad that you were able to resolve your problem.  I am not a
developer, but I think there is a possibility that there could be a bug in
the report code if GnuCash 3.3 is treating stocks that are evaluated in the
Locale or default currency as if they are foreign currencies.
Unfortunately, I cannot test that on any of my computers.

If any other users are able to test that in release 3.3 or 3.4 and they can
verify that as a bug I would ask them to file a bug report.  If they test
and find that domestically valued stocks are not considered foreign
currencies in the balance sheet report it would also be interesting to
report that on this thread just so more of us know.

David C

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 7:36 PM Stephen Knapp <knapp_stephen at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> David,
>
> Thank you for the helpful response. I am currently running v. 3.3. and I
> was able to find a solution having to do with a currency setting. Currency
> was not on my initial radar as I believed all my assets to be denominated
> in USD. [Does Gnucash treat a stock in the same category as a foreign
> currency?] Regardless, the immediate solution for me was to go to OPTIONS:
> COMMODITIES, and then deselect "Show Foreign Currencies." The latter was
> selected as a default. Unchecking this option removed all the individual
> stocks from the balance sheet and correctly showed the total with the
> "Investments" hierarchy.
>
> If I ever do start incorporating foreign currency assets, it would be nice
> to have another way to collapse the individual stock accounts, but this
> solution will work for the time-being. A new challenge for another day.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Stephen
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 1, 2019, 5:45:10 PM GMT-5, David Carlson <
> david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> wrote
>
>
> Stephen,
>
> I just tried running that report in release 2.6.15 and found that the
> securities can be suppressed in the report by reducing the level of sub
> accounts to two in my data file which has many securities but no foreign
> currencies.  They are likely to be affected by some additional settings in
> the report because they are denominated in shares of the security which
> would have to be evaluated into your currency in order to create that
> report, which involves a decision of what basis is used for that evaluation
> and whether you have [current] values in you data.  There is a default for
> that which should give some result, but perhaps less accurate than you
> really want.
>
> That said, things have changed in recent releases 3.3 and 3.4 so those
> releases may give different results.  Michael gave you some good
> suggestions to try and if [a] they do not work and [b] you have already
> migrated to release 3.4 then we need more information to help you get to
> the bottom of your problem.
>
> David C
>
> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 1:01 PM Stephen Knapp via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>
>  @Michael. Thank you for the response.
> I have toggled through all the options in the reports. Selecting and
> deselecting subtotals. I have also tried putting the individual stocks at
> different levels in the hierarchy. No matter the "options" setting or how
> many levels of hierarchy I put the stocks in, it seems that the report is
> alway treating each stock as a first level hierarchy. Thus far, I have been
> unable to produce a Balance Sheet without it listing every single
> individual stock in the report.
> Does this make sense? Thanks again for your help.
>
>
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>   1. Re:  Adding an exchange to the list of exchanges (David T.)
>   2. Re:  Tutorial for moving stock between accounts? (David Carlson)
>   3. Re:  Tutorial for moving stock between accounts? (David Carlson)
>   4. Re:  Tutorial for moving stock between accounts? (David Carlson)
>   5. Re:  Adding an exchange to the list of exchanges (David Cousens)
>   6. Re:  Tutorial for moving stock between accounts? (Jon Leech)
>   7. Re:  *.deb package for GnuCash 3.4 Released (Colin Law)
>   8. Re:  Tutorial for moving stock between accounts? (David T.)
>   9. Re:  Location of GnuCash data files (Finbar Mahon)
>   10.  Balance Sheet Report keeps listing all my individual stocks
>       (Stephen Knapp)
>   11. Re:  Balance Sheet Report keeps listing all my individual
>       stocks (Michael or Penny Novack)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 03:53:07 +0000 (UTC)
> From: "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> To: "davidcousens at bigpond.com" <davidcousens at bigpond.com>,
>     "gnucash-user at gnucash.org" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding an exchange to the list of exchanges
> Message-ID: <1950304245.4607945.1546314787790 at mail.yahoo.com>
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>
> I am not at my computer to verify, but I understand that this field is a
> simple text field with a combo box drop down based on prior entries.? In
> other words, you can type your own entry into the field.?
> David T.
>
>
>
>   On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 8:50, David Cousens<davidcousens at bigpond.com>
> wrote:  Hi,
> GnuCash v 3.4. I am trying to add a stock account for shares traded on the
> ASX from the Select Security dialog in the New Account dialog. ASX does not
> appear in the list of exchanges. Is it possible to add exchanges to the
> list? If so how and where? I have tried using the Price editor but can't
> find a way of adding other exchanges.
>
> David Cousens
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 22:00:41 -0600
> From: David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> To: David Cousens <davidcousens at bigpond.com>
> Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Tutorial for moving stock between accounts?
> Message-ID:
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> Now David Cousens, you are confusing me.  If you are referring to
> re-writing the original purchase transaction to correct an error, and the
> cash that is also transferred in that transaction is also corrected to the
> new brokerage account, then I agree with you.
>
> If, however, this is a new transaction representing a transfer of existing
> stock 'in kind' or some other asset which is not really sold, such as an
> antique or art work, then it would be necessary to figure out the value
> that the asset had in the source account and to also transfer that value to
> the new account along with the asset.  That transaction pair would be
> similar to a sale out of the source account and a purchase in the
> destination account.  Again, there is an assumption that the same currency
> is used throughout.
>
> David C[arlson]
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 8:30 PM David Cousens <davidcousens at bigpond.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Jon,
> >
> > Sorry for the overkill Jon.
> > In that case it is fairly simple. If you open the transaction in the
> > account
> > register they are in then edit the account entry split which debits them
> to
> > that account and just select the new account you want to move them to in
> > the
> > drop down list. If you click on another transaction you will then get a
> > dialog asking whether you want to confirm the changes. This will remove
> the
> > transaction from that register. If you then open the new account
> register
> > you should see the transaction in the register for the new account.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > David Cousens
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 22:09:31 -0600
> From: David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> To: David Cousens <davidcousens at bigpond.com>
> Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Tutorial for moving stock between accounts?
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>
> I forgot to mention that if the value has changed at the time of the 'in
> kind' transfer from the original value in the source account, then it is
> necessary to account for a profit or loss to the source account in the
> pseudo-sale transaction and to assign the new value to the new account in
> the pseudo-purchase transaction.
>
> David C[arlson]
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:00 PM David Carlson <
> david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Now David Cousens, you are confusing me.  If you are referring to
> > re-writing the original purchase transaction to correct an error, and the
> > cash that is also transferred in that transaction is also corrected to
> the
> > new brokerage account, then I agree with you.
> >
> > If, however, this is a new transaction representing a transfer of
> existing
> > stock 'in kind' or some other asset which is not really sold, such as an
> > antique or art work, then it would be necessary to figure out the value
> > that the asset had in the source account and to also transfer that value
> to
> > the new account along with the asset.  That transaction pair would be
> > similar to a sale out of the source account and a purchase in the
> > destination account.  Again, there is an assumption that the same
> currency
> > is used throughout.
> >
> > David C[arlson]
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 8:30 PM David Cousens <davidcousens at bigpond.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Jon,
> >>
> >> Sorry for the overkill Jon.
> >> In that case it is fairly simple. If you open the transaction in the
> >> account
> >> register they are in then edit the account entry split which debits them
> >> to
> >> that account and just select the new account you want to move them to in
> >> the
> >> drop down list. If you click on another transaction you will then get a
> >> dialog asking whether you want to confirm the changes. This will remove
> >> the
> >> transaction from that register. If you then open the new account
> register
> >> you should see the transaction in the register for the new account.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----
> >> David Cousens
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 22:23:49 -0600
> From: David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> To: David Cousens <davidcousens at bigpond.com>
> Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Tutorial for moving stock between accounts?
> Message-ID:
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>
> Now I see that I was also confused by the way that G Mail was showing this
> thread on my screen.  David Cousens' original answer was  correct  but it
> was hidden from my view.  The process is essentially the same either way,
> the only difference being that for an 'in kind' transfer the sale and
> purchase are just virtual transactions.  This sort of situation might come
> up in transfers of custodial assets in or out of trusts or other tax
> favored accounts.
>
> David C[arlson]
>
> David C[arlson]
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:09 PM David Carlson <
> david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I forgot to mention that if the value has changed at the time of the 'in
> > kind' transfer from the original value in the source account, then it is
> > necessary to account for a profit or loss to the source account in the
> > pseudo-sale transaction and to assign the new value to the new account in
> > the pseudo-purchase transaction.
> >
> > David C[arlson]
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:00 PM David Carlson <
> > david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Now David Cousens, you are confusing me.  If you are referring to
> >> re-writing the original purchase transaction to correct an error, and
> the
> >> cash that is also transferred in that transaction is also corrected to
> the
> >> new brokerage account, then I agree with you.
> >>
> >> If, however, this is a new transaction representing a transfer of
> >> existing stock 'in kind' or some other asset which is not really sold,
> such
> >> as an antique or art work, then it would be necessary to figure out the
> >> value that the asset had in the source account and to also transfer that
> >> value to the new account along with the asset.  That transaction pair
> would
> >> be similar to a sale out of the source account and a purchase in the
> >> destination account.  Again, there is an assumption that the same
> currency
> >> is used throughout.
> >>
> >> David C[arlson]
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 8:30 PM David Cousens <davidcousens at bigpond.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jon,
> >>>
> >>> Sorry for the overkill Jon.
> >>> In that case it is fairly simple. If you open the transaction in the
> >>> account
> >>> register they are in then edit the account entry split which debits
> them
> >>> to
> >>> that account and just select the new account you want to move them to
> in
> >>> the
> >>> drop down list. If you click on another transaction you will then get a
> >>> dialog asking whether you want to confirm the changes. This will remove
> >>> the
> >>> transaction from that register. If you then open the new account
> >>> register
> >>> you should see the transaction in the register for the new account.
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----
> >>> David Cousens
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 00:45:08 -0600 (CST)
> From: David Cousens <davidcousens at bigpond.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Adding an exchange to the list of exchanges
> Message-ID: <1546325108693-0.post at n4.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Solved my own problem
>
> Tools->Price Editor
>
> Hit ADD button
> Type ASX in the textbox  for Type: fill in the other details.
>
> This can't be done from the New Account dialog for an account of Type Stock
> however. The commodity has to be created first in the Price editor.
>
> David Cousens
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 18:45:36 -0800
> From: Jon Leech <oddhack at sonic.net>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Tutorial for moving stock between accounts?
> Message-ID: <20190101024536.f4jgauou7ot6dyct at celly.oddhack.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> David Cousens wrote:
> > In that case it is fairly simple. If you open the transaction in the
> account
> > register they are in then edit the account entry split which debits them
> to
> > that account and just select the new account you want to move them to in
> the
> > drop down list. If you click on another transaction you will then get a
> > dialog asking whether you want to confirm the changes. This will remove
> the
> > transaction from that register. If you then open the new account
> register
> > you should see the transaction in the register for the new account.
>
>     That would work if I were transferring all of the shares in the
> account to another account. But I'm only moving a portion of them (which
> I don't think I previously made clear - sorry for that). It may be that
> I end up having to synthesize new transactions that didn't actually
> occur to accomplish this (e.g. breaking the original purchase into two
> parts for the shares transferred / remaining), but I'd prefer the
> gnucash history to reflect actual events insofar as possible.
>
>     There is very little about this topic in the mailing list archives.
> The last time someone asked was about 5 years ago, AFAICT, and it
> doesn't seem like the program is more capable in this area than it was
> in 2013. But I am hoping someone else has addressed this specific
> problem and documented how they accomplished it.
>
>     Jon
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 10:12:10 +0000
> From: Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com>
> To: Tim Kallmer <tkallmer at gmail.com>
> Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] *.deb package for GnuCash 3.4 Released
> Message-ID:
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> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 17:58, Tim Kallmer <tkallmer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > the .deb package did not work for me on Ubuntu 18.10
>
> As I posted earlier, for ubuntu 18.10 do
> sudo apt install libboost-regex1.65.1
>
> Colin
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 10:35:03 +0000 (UTC)
> From: "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> To: "oddhack at sonic.net" <oddhack at sonic.net>,
>     "gnucash-user at gnucash.org" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Tutorial for moving stock between accounts?
> Message-ID: <1209533355.4652865.1546338904062 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> What part of creating a transaction that moves shares from the old account
> to the new account does not work? It would seem to me that:
> Old account decrease 100 sharesNew account add shares
> Would work just fine.?
> David T.
>
>
>
>   On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 14:34, Jon Leech<oddhack at sonic.net> wrote:
> David Cousens wrote:
> > In that case it is fairly simple. If you open the transaction in the
> account
> > register they are in then edit the account entry split which debits them
> to
> > that account and just select the new account you want to move them to in
> the
> > drop down list. If you click on another transaction you will then get a
> > dialog asking whether you want to confirm the changes. This will remove
> the
> > transaction from that register. If you then open the new account?
> register
> > you should see the transaction in the register for the new account.
>
> ? ? That would work if I were transferring all of the shares in the
> account to another account. But I'm only moving a portion of them (which
> I don't think I previously made clear - sorry for that). It may be that
> I end up having to synthesize new transactions that didn't actually
> occur to accomplish this (e.g. breaking the original purchase into two
> parts for the shares transferred / remaining), but I'd prefer the
> gnucash history to reflect actual events insofar as possible.
>
> ? ? There is very little about this topic in the mailing list archives.
> The last time someone asked was about 5 years ago, AFAICT, and it
> doesn't seem like the program is more capable in this area than it was
> in 2013. But I am hoping someone else has addressed this specific
> problem and documented how they accomplished it.
>
> ? ? Jon
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 13:23:16 +0100
> From: Finbar Mahon <mahon.finbar at neuf.fr>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Location of GnuCash data files
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> Of course! I found everything since Feb 2018! Many thanks and a Happy
> New Year!
>
> Off to load 3.3, I hope that command works there too.
>
> Barry
>
> On Dec 31, 2018, at 2:20 PM, David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The thread GNCupdating advice seems to have answers that could apply
> >>> to this thread.
> >>>
> >>> Adding to both: In the release 2.6.xx family, a simple method to
> >>> find the last used data file is to start the File > Save as process
> >>> and see where GnuCash wants to put the new file. Then cancel before
> >>> actually saving.
> >>>
> >>> David C
> >>>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 15:32:46 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Stephen Knapp <knapp_stephen at yahoo.com>
> To: "gnucash-user at gnucash.org" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: [GNC] Balance Sheet Report keeps listing all my individual
>     stocks
> Message-ID: <1385985272.4704823.1546356766436 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hello.?I am having a problem that all my individual stocks are showing up
> in my Balance Sheet report. I have a hierarchy with INVESTMENTS (Asset):
> BROKER ACCOUNT(Asset): COMPANY A (Stock), COMPANY (Stock), etc. I have
> tried all different combinations of hierarchies and the Levels of
> Subaccounts settings, but the report keeps putting all the individual
> stocks in the report, versus the sought after investment total.?
> Any help would be appreciated.?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2019 11:21:16 -0500
> From: Michael or Penny Novack <stepbystepfarm at comcast.net>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Balance Sheet Report keeps listing all my
>     individual stocks
> Message-ID: <5C2B937C.7050008 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On 1/1/2019 10:32 AM, Stephen Knapp via gnucash-user wrote:
> > Hello. I am having a problem that all my individual stocks are showing
> up in my Balance Sheet report. I have a hierarchy with INVESTMENTS (Asset):
> BROKER ACCOUNT(Asset): COMPANY A (Stock), COMPANY (Stock), etc. I have
> tried all different combinations of hierarchies and the Levels of
> Subaccounts settings, but the report keeps putting all the individual
> stocks in the report, versus the sought after investment total.
> > Any help would be appreciated.
>
> I'm not SURE about your question, it seems to have more than one part,
> so pardon my guessing.
>
> a) You want to see a total for "INVESTMENTS" (and you aren't)
>       This has to do with the subtotaling options you have selected via
> Edit=>Report Options. You can choose things like whether you want to see
> totals for parent accounts, and if so, before or after, etc.
>
> HINT: If new to gnucash, or even experienced with gnucash but new to a
> particular report, the first thing you should do is run the report as
> "test" immediately entering Report Options to find out all the options
> you have for that report.
>
> b) You have a hierarchy Assets:Investments:Broker Account:(Company A,
> Company B, ....)  That would be four levels of nesting. Are you saying
> that when you set the Balance Sheet nesting level to 3 (Report Options
> again) you still saw the individual stocks?
>
> Michael D Novack
>
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