[GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?

will at theprescotts.com will at theprescotts.com
Sun Jul 12 17:28:11 EDT 2020


Incidentally, I replied earlier that I use the interest popup but not the credit payment popup. I could easily do without either one. I have the credit card payment as a regularly scheduled transaction with no amounts filled in. I would probably do the same with the interest transactions if the popup went away. Or maybe I will do it anyway now.

Will


On 2020 Jul 12, at 07-12 16:14:31, David H <hellvee at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi John,

No worries here either. I never use this feature and the monthly credit
card payments are taken care of by a scheduled txn as they occur on pretty
much the same day each month and all I generally ever have to do is update
the amount and occasionally the date.  At odd times I used to have the
payment dialog popping up even though it was turned off in the global
setting but I see you guys have that bug sorted.

On the very rare occasion I need to enter an interest txn I'm more than
happy to enter it manually - I think I might have done one of these in the
last 18 months :-)

So I say go for it.

Regards David H.


On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 at 02:41, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:

> Frank and I have both opined on
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest
> payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion
> that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes
> reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that
> relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment
> transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the
> register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're
> an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction.
> 
> But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated
> disagreement. I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects
> to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the
> interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling
> reason do you have for objecting?
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Jean,
>> 
>> I filed bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 for the
> issue with the global preference not being honored.
>> 
>> And bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797855 for the button
> issue on the two dialogs.
>> 
>> Feel free to combine them if you like. I wasn't sure of developers'
> intent with the global preference, so I filed them separately.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>> On 7/10/20 5:52 PM, Jean Laroche wrote:
>>> If you open a bug about it, I can try to fix that (move things to the
> right place etc). At the very least, the global option should be either
> fixed, or removed.
>>> Jean
>>> On 7/10/20 3:35 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>>>> For consistency, that very wide button should probably either be
> changed to a checkbox, then moved or copied to the Account Edit page as a
> per-account preference. (it could remain in the dialog for discoverability
> I suppose, which is what I mean by 'copied') One could change it in either
> place, but ideally, it should be in one place.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure a global preference (especially one that is ignored) is
> necessary if each account can be set separately.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Adrien
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/10/20 5:16 PM, lj wrote:
>>>>> I figured it out. Duh.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a button on the Reconcile dialog that says "Enter Interest
> Payment". In addition to letting you enter an interest payment, clicking
> that button sets a per-account flag to always prompt for an interest
> payment when you reconcile.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the Interest Payment dialog, there is a button "No Auto Interest
> Payments for this Account". (It's very wide, and I didn't realize it was a
> button.) That cancels the dialog, and also clears the per-account flag so
> GnuCash will no longer prompt for interest payment when you reconcile.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And the global preference Register, Reconciling, Automatic interest
> transfer? It does NOTHING at all. It sets a preference flag which is never
> used. It's supposed to be the default for accounts without the
> auto-interest-payment flag, but it doesn't work. Note that in
> libgnucash/engine/Account.cpp, the function
> xaccAccountGetAutoInterestXfer() ignores its default_value argument.
>>>> 
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