[GNC] Tabs Behaviors in GNC4.1

David Carlson david.carlson.417 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 16 20:34:43 EDT 2020


There is a story in a very reliable book about David being a giant killer.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:23 PM David H <hellvee at gmail.com> wrote:

> David = Problem child :-)
>
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 09:59, David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> David H.,
>>
>> You are one of many Davids that are subscribed to GnuCash maillists. I
>> have trouble remembering which of us wrote what.  I think it is David T
>> that likes the menu tabs on the left side.  We all have our unique
>> preferences!
>>
>> I do think that this particular  feature can be adapted to by retraining
>> the operator by about the same level of training as switching from one
>> desktop to another in Linux, so I, for one, am only flabbergasted by it
>> being sprung on us seemingly without warning.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 6:32 PM David H <hellvee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No No No :-)  My tabs are across the top, left to right, COA followed by
>>> 6
>>> account tabs - called them pinned if you want - that are the accounts I'm
>>> generally always working in. I would like all new tabs including search
>>> results, regular txn lists on opening gnucash, reports, what have you
>>> always opening on the right i.e. AFTER the last tab I have open.  I know
>>> that the ANZ Visa tab is always last so I can safely close all tabs to
>>> the
>>> right of it.  This all seems to have come about because someone liked to
>>> have 50 tabs open !!!!  Not a common use case I would have thought.
>>>
>>> I did actually load up the test versions, 3.90... and I may have
>>> mentioned
>>> this at the time, I can't remember but it's still a bit foreign to me to
>>> go
>>> looking for tabs that I want to close in amongst all the other ones I
>>> want
>>> to keep open permanently.
>>>
>>> Cheers David H.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 22:49, D. via gnucash-user <
>>> gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Thanks for pointing this bug out.
>>> >
>>> > It's too bad that the suggestion in the bug to discuss this change on
>>> the
>>> > lists was not apparently taken up. The devs would then have at least
>>> heard
>>> > from some other users about their use cases and preferences, and users
>>> > would have had a heads up about the change. Instead, a change gets
>>> pushed
>>> > out based on one person's request, mainly because it involves "three
>>> lines
>>> > of code." I'll set aside the wisdom of making changes to software based
>>> > primarily on the complexity of the fix, or on a single user and the
>>> > opinions of three devs...
>>> >
>>> > While it might seem overkill to discuss something as seemingly minor as
>>> > this change, I think *any* change in the user interface should be
>>> discussed
>>> > more, rather than less.
>>> >
>>> > Now, we get to have that discussion.
>>> >
>>> > At the risk of repeating myself, let me re-present. In my usage of
>>> > Gnucash, I keep a core set of tabs always open. These tabs represent my
>>> > primary active accounts: my checking account, savings account, credit
>>> card
>>> > account, and a cash account.
>>> >
>>> > I leave them open because they are involved in the vast majority of my
>>> > transactions, and it is easier to click on one of the tabs than to go
>>> to
>>> > the CoA, locate the account, and open it. I like to have them at the
>>> top of
>>> > the list at all times because I can quickly locate them there. I know
>>> where
>>> > they are.
>>> >
>>> > With the latest change, I no longer can rely on this. My core tabs move
>>> > down. If I open one of my more obscure accounts to look at things, it
>>> > pushes its way in at the top. If I've opened several of them, they are
>>> all
>>> > at the top, and when I am done with those tabs, I have to carefully
>>> close
>>> > tabs, rather than close all tabs below a certain point on the screen.
>>> >
>>> > None of this is particularly catastrophic, but it does affect me and my
>>> > workflow every time I open or close an account, so I would prefer to
>>> have
>>> > the option of restoring the old tab behavior.
>>> >
>>> > The idea of pinned tabs is interesting, although it doesn't remove the
>>> > need for the preference. If I jump to a new account tab from a pinned
>>> one,
>>> > will the new tab go at the end of the list, or bury itself in the
>>> middle of
>>> > my pinned tabs? I think the user would still want the option of where
>>> the
>>> > new tabs open.
>>> >
>>> > I'll give a clear and unambiguous preference: I want to be able to
>>> choose
>>> > this behavior with a preference setting. Put this setting on the same
>>> page
>>> > as the tab location setting, and have it read:
>>> >
>>> > Open new tabs: □ At the bottom of the tab list □ After the current tab
>>> >
>>> > David T.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -------- Original Message --------
>>> > From: Geert Janssens <geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be>
>>> > Sent: Wed Sep 16 03:35:35 EDT 2020
>>> > To: "D." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>, gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>>> > Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>, Stan Brown <
>>> > the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm>, David Carlson <
>>> david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Tabs Behaviors in GNC4.1
>>> >
>>> > Op woensdag 16 september 2020 01:21:19 CEST schreef
>>> > David Carlson:
>>> > > It doesn't make sense to me either, and since it is a change
>>> > from previous
>>> > > behavior, I  think it deserves a bug report.
>>> >
>>> > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797787[1]
>>> >
>>> > --------
>>> > [1] https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797787
>>> >
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>> --
>> David Carlson
>>
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