[GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 213, Issue 50

[Gerald Ellis]

David:

	Your answer was the solution. I did a flatpak uninstall then a
dnf install of gnucash and I can now print directly to my printer.
Thanks for the help.

On Wed, 2020-12-30 at 09:56 -0500, gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org
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>    1. Re:  Can't get GNUCASH to work on OSX (David H)
>    2.  Bankrupt stock (smada46)
>    3. Re:  Bankrupt stock (Cam Ellison)
>    4. Re:  Bankrupt stock (Jean-David Beyer)
>    5. Re:  Bankrupt stock (dullege at gmail.com)
>    6. Re:  Printing (Ove Grunn?r)
>    7. Re:  Printing (Gareth Davies)
>    8. Re:  GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement (D.)
>    9. Re:  Printing (Jean-David Beyer)
>   10. Re:  Printing (David Cousens)
>   11. Re:  Printing (Jean-David Beyer)
> 
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:14:02 +1000
> From: David H <hellvee at gmail.com>
> To: Michael Hendry <hendry.michael at gmail.com>
> Cc: Ralph Musto <ralphmusto at icloud.com>, Gnucash Users
> 	<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Can't get GNUCASH to work on OSX
> Message-ID:
> 	<CA+5xQdp-JtDGgZU2Wuno0eto8e+XqbPxYfjr8CWR_VTSLFjLRw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> When I open the dmg there's 5-6 files so I just copy them all over and yes
> CMD not CTRL - Windows muscle memory taking over :-)  Using Big Sur 11.1
> these days so I guess the prompts have changed somewhat
> 
> Cheers David.
> 
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 10:00, Michael Hendry <hendry.michael at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > > On 29 Dec 2020, at 20:58, David H <hellvee at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ralph,
> > > 
> > > Go to system prefs under Security and Policy and see if there's  a
> > prompt to allow Gnucash to run - working from memory here so I think that's
> > where it used to show up for me.
> > > 
> > > Michael,
> > > 
> > > Check your system prefs under Security and Policy - I have "Allow apps
> > downloaded from:" set to "App Store and identified developers" and don't
> > get prompted to allow a new version to run.
> > 
> > Thanks, David.
> > 
> > I have mine set to ?Anywhere?, which I would imagine is a superset of ?App
> > Store and identified developers?, but I still get the prompt.
> > 
> > >  All I ever do is mount and open the dmg, CTRL-A to select all files and
> > in Applications CTRL-V to paste and select copy over if I already have
> > Gnucash installed.
> > 
> > I mount and open the DMG, then drag the App into the Applications folder,
> > opting to overwrite the existing copy. As far as I can tell, there?s no
> > need to ?select all? and copy.
> > 
> > (Presumably you use <Cmd>-a and <Cmd>-v on your Mac, not the CTRL-A etc?)
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 15:18:07 -0700
> From: smada46 <smada46 at rtconnect.net>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Bankrupt stock
> Message-ID: <832DF942-07DE-4CF9-819B-52CC96577063 at rtconnect.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
> 
> I have a stock that went bankrupt, i.e. zero value.  I have tried repeatedly to remove the stock by selling the shares at $0.00 per share, but no matter what combination I use, it changes the cost or amount so it does not remove the shares.  For example, I put -2000 shares in and $0.00 in cost and zero under the sell column.  After I hit enter, the shares show 1980 not zero.  How do I get rid of this stock?
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 21:10:41 -0800
> From: Cam Ellison <cam at ellisonet.ca>
> To: smada46 <smada46 at rtconnect.net>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org, gnucash-user
> 	<gnucash-user-bounces+cam=ellisonet.ca at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Bankrupt stock
> Message-ID: <29f763564801324efb9a505ab1fe826c at ellisonet.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> 
> On 2020-12-29 14:18, smada46 wrote:
> > I have a stock that went bankrupt, i.e. zero value.  I have tried
> > repeatedly to remove the stock by selling the shares at $0.00 per
> > share, but no matter what combination I use, it changes the cost or
> > amount so it does not remove the shares.  For example, I put -2000
> > shares in and $0.00 in cost and zero under the sell column.  After I
> > hit enter, the shares show 1980 not zero.  How do I get rid of this
> > stock?
> 
> Why would you want to remove it? Use the Price database to set its value 
> to zero. The Portfolio reports will not include it unless you 
> specifically select it.
> 
> Regardless of their value, you still own those shares - and will always 
> own them. So you can't sell them - either in real life or in GnuCash.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cam
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 00:40:51 -0500
> From: Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8 at verizon.net>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Bankrupt stock
> Message-ID: <fbc3502d-391e-b612-f796-5699951616e5 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
>    On 12/30/20 12:10 AM, Cam Ellison wrote:
> 
>      On 2020-12-29 14:18, smada46 wrote:
> 
>      I have a stock that went bankrupt, i.e. zero value.  I have tried
>      repeatedly to remove the stock by selling the shares at $0.00 per
>      share, but no matter what combination I use, it changes the cost or
>      amount so it does not remove the shares.  For example, I put -2000
>      shares in and $0.00 in cost and zero under the sell column.  After I
>      hit enter, the shares show 1980 not zero.  How do I get rid of this
>      stock?
> 
>      Why would you want to remove it? Use the Price database to set its
>      value to zero. The Portfolio reports will not include it unless you
>      specifically select it.
>      Regardless of their value, you still own those shares - and will
>      always own them. So you can't sell them - either in real life or in
>      GnuCash.
> 
>    I had a stock that went bankrupt. My broker allowed me to sell it to
>    him for a pittance (a few cents for the lot). So I do not own those
>    shares anymore and no longer appear on my broker's web site or my
>    monthly statements.
> --
>   .~.  Jean-David Beyer
>   /V\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
>  /( )\ Red Hat Enterprise Linux
>  ^^-^^ up 1 day, 13 hours, 17 minutes
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 17:22:11 +1100
> From: <dullege at gmail.com>
> To: "'Cam Ellison'" <cam at ellisonet.ca>,	"'smada46'"
> 	<smada46 at rtconnect.net>
> Cc: <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>, "'gnucash-user'"
> 	<gnucash-user-bounces+cam=ellisonet.ca at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Bankrupt stock
> Message-ID: <001801d6de74$1da6eda0$58f4c8e0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Well, depending where you live,  I think you might want to "dispose" of
> delisted and worthless shares so that you can capture the capital loss for
> tax purposes.
> 
> In the asset account linked to this one security ... I would create a new
> transaction -xxxx for the Shares (where "xxxx" is the total shares you own),
> and $0.00 for the price - that's it (ie, nothing under Transfer because
> there are no proceeds, nothing entered in Sell).
> 
> This results in net balance of exactly 0 shares for the asset account linked
> to the security.
> 
> You should then be able to scrub the account (to capture the capital loss
> for the disposed shares).
> 
> I tried this just now it and it all seems to work.
> 
> Finally, you can hide the asset account if you never want to be reminded of
> that bad investment again.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+dullege=gmail.com at gnucash.org> On
> Behalf Of Cam Ellison
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 December 2020 4:11 PM
> To: smada46 <smada46 at rtconnect.net>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org; gnucash-user
> <gnucash-user-bounces+cam=ellisonet.ca at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Bankrupt stock
> 
> On 2020-12-29 14:18, smada46 wrote:
> > I have a stock that went bankrupt, i.e. zero value.  I have tried 
> > repeatedly to remove the stock by selling the shares at $0.00 per 
> > share, but no matter what combination I use, it changes the cost or 
> > amount so it does not remove the shares.  For example, I put -2000 
> > shares in and $0.00 in cost and zero under the sell column.  After I 
> > hit enter, the shares show 1980 not zero.  How do I get rid of this 
> > stock?
> 
> Why would you want to remove it? Use the Price database to set its value to
> zero. The Portfolio reports will not include it unless you specifically
> select it.
> 
> Regardless of their value, you still own those shares - and will always own
> them. So you can't sell them - either in real life or in GnuCash.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cam
> 
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:25:25 +0000
> From: Ove Grunn?r <write2ove at gmail.com>
> To: gellis at aeneas.net
> Cc: gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Printing
> Message-ID:
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> 
> You can also export/print to pdf and then print the pdf document to your
> printer.
> 
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020, 22:45 David Cousens, <davidcousens at bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > Gerald,
> > 
> > Printing is normally handled by the OS and not by GnuCash itself.
> > 
> > What OS are you using and what is the GnuCash version?
> > What are you trying to print?
> > 
> > Generally only reports can be printed out (and checks, invoices etc.).
> > Under
> > the File menu item there is a Print Report (Ctrl-P) entry which will print
> > the report currently displayed in the  main window to the system printer.
> > AFAIK this is context sensitive and become Print Checks when an account
> > register is being displayed. I would think if an invoice is the open tab it
> > will change to Print Invoice but I do not use the business features so I
> > cannot check it out easily.
> > 
> > On Linux, in my case, this is a network shared printer accessible via CUPS.
> > If the printer is accessible through the OS, web browsers or other
> > applications, it should also be accessible from within GnuCash. If not it
> > is
> > likely a CUPS configuration problem
> > 
> > An alternative is to export the report as HTML, then open it with a web
> > browser and print from the browser.
> > 
> > David Cousens
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----
> > David Cousens
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:37:42 +0000
> From: Gareth Davies <gareth.davies.1 at ntlworld.com>
> To: Ove Grunn?r <write2ove at gmail.com>
> Cc: gellis at aeneas.net, gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Printing
> Message-ID: <CBE0F538-401A-4471-8FF4-EF9DEEEEEA89 at ntlworld.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Exporting to PDF and then printing, is the way I do it as well. It?s easy to do. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 30 Dec 2020, at 9:26 am, Ove Grunn?r <write2ove at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > ?You can also export/print to pdf and then print the pdf document to your
> > printer.
> > 
> > > On Tue, 29 Dec 2020, 22:45 David Cousens, <davidcousens at bigpond.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Gerald,
> > > 
> > > Printing is normally handled by the OS and not by GnuCash itself.
> > > 
> > > What OS are you using and what is the GnuCash version?
> > > What are you trying to print?
> > > 
> > > Generally only reports can be printed out (and checks, invoices etc.).
> > > Under
> > > the File menu item there is a Print Report (Ctrl-P) entry which will print
> > > the report currently displayed in the  main window to the system printer.
> > > AFAIK this is context sensitive and become Print Checks when an account
> > > register is being displayed. I would think if an invoice is the open tab it
> > > will change to Print Invoice but I do not use the business features so I
> > > cannot check it out easily.
> > > 
> > > On Linux, in my case, this is a network shared printer accessible via CUPS.
> > > If the printer is accessible through the OS, web browsers or other
> > > applications, it should also be accessible from within GnuCash. If not it
> > > is
> > > likely a CUPS configuration problem
> > > 
> > > An alternative is to export the report as HTML, then open it with a web
> > > browser and print from the browser.
> > > 
> > > David Cousens
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----
> > > David Cousens
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:24:41 -0500
> From: "D." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> To: Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> Cc: GnuCash-User <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement
> Message-ID: <f6b3a36c-b96e-4295-8064-32d85991eb78 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Thanks, but the point is that the Gnucash project's standard practice-- that is, to post release announcements on the user and devel lists-- did not occur in this instance. 
> 
> @Frank: I didn't notice that your link was to a message in gnucash-announce. I don't know what the information flow typically is, but would assume that there is some script that repackages the announcement message and sends it along to the other lists as appropriate. Clearly, that didn't happen with these messages. I'd hazard a guess that most users only subscribe to the users list, and won't know about the new release otherwise. 
> 
> David
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tue Dec 29 18:24:41 EST 2020
> To: GnuCash-User <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement
> 
> I think the GnuCash project is managed or stored SourceForge.  I've somehow
> noodled around on SF and now when there's a release, I get a SF release
> notification email, FWIW
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 8:54 PM D. via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> 
> > Frank,
> > 
> > I didn't receive either boilerplate announcement in my inboxes, either-- a
> > point that John acknowledged directly. Something clearly went awry with the
> > mail in these cases.
> > 
> > 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" <frank.h.ellenberger at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Mon Dec 28 21:04:06 EST 2020
> > To: pyz01 at cox.net, 'John Ralls' <jralls at ceridwen.us>, 'GnuCash-User' <
> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement
> > 
> > Hello Ken,
> > 
> > Am 29.12.20 um 02:54 schrieb pyz01 at cox.net:
> > > John - Thank you for the announcement - FYI -  Received this e-mail - but
> > > did not receive the regular nor the 4.3 announcement.
> > > 
> > > Ken
> > 
> > it is here:
> > 
> > https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-announce/2020-December/000333.html
> > 
> > All in reverse chronological order:
> > https://www.gnucash.org/news.phtml
> > 
> > 
> > ~Frank
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:28:50 -0500
> From: Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8 at verizon.net>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Printing
> Message-ID: <304d3b6d-59fc-dfed-da7a-a638e81c77a0 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> On 12/30/20 4:25 AM, Ove Grunn?r wrote:
> > You can also export/print to pdf and then print the pdf document to your
> > printer.
> 
> I first got Gnucash on this machine (Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.2) from 
> flatpack and it worked, but would not print. I have nothing but trouble 
> with flatpack stuff. It runs by itself, but often do not cooperate with 
> other programs. My solution was that a friend built an rpm for me from? 
> the source, and I installed it with RPM and everything works just fine.
> 
> -- 
>    .~.  Jean-David Beyer
>    /V\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
>   /( )\ Red Hat Enterprise Linux
>   ^^-^^ up 1 day, 22 hours, 2 minutes
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 08:43:51 -0600 (CST)
> From: David Cousens <davidcousens at bigpond.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Printing
> Message-ID: <1609339431087-0.post at n4.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Jean-David,
> 
> This is likely a problem with the flatpack setup and not with GnuCash
> itself. There are previous posts in the archive about fixing these problems
> with flatpack. A search should bring them up but this link from an earlier
> thread may have what you need
> 
> http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html
> 
> QA link on Nabble to the earlier thread is
> http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-no-printer-to-select-in-print-dialog-td4708467.html#a4708470
> 
> David Cousens
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> David Cousens
> --
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:56:06 -0500
> From: Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8 at verizon.net>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Printing
> Message-ID: <68b2dd92-987c-cc36-2eaf-376a6f38b324 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> On 12/30/20 9:43 AM, David Cousens wrote:
> > Jean-David,
> > 
> > This is likely a problem with the flatpack setup and not with GnuCash
> > itself. There are previous posts in the archive about fixing these problems
> > with flatpack. A search should bring them up but this link from an earlier
> > thread may have what you need
> > 
> > http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html
> > 
> > QA link on Nabble to the earlier thread is
> > http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-no-printer-to-select-in-print-dialog-td4708467.html#a4708470
> > 
> > David Cousens
> 
> I agree that the printing problem, apparently with GnuCash in this 
> instance, is NOT a GnuCash problem. But I had so many problems with 
> flatpack programs, the crazy places they were located, the bizarre names 
> that the went by, that I quit using them entirely.
> 
> Now part of my problems with flatpack is that I run RHEL8 and it uses 
> SELinux kernel that is very fussy about who does and uses what. Even the 
> root user can not violate the security of that kernel directly; i.e., it 
> is fussier than merely following permissions on files, and flatpack 
> seems to? pay no attention to that.
> 
> If it were only GnuCash printing, perhaps? I would follow the links you 
> supplied, but my solution is just to not use flatpack at all.
>