[GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 216, Issue 27
Stephen C. Camidge
scamidge at fastmail.fm
Sat Mar 13 16:59:08 EST 2021
No Jim. I copied my files on my Mac to an external FAT32 (I think it is called) drive and opened it in Linux.
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 4:52 PM, gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org wrote:
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> 1. Re: Moving to Linux (John Ralls)
> 2. Re: Strange message on launching app (John Ralls)
> 3. Re: Moving to Linux (Stephen C. Camidge)
> 4. Re: Moving to Linux (Stephen C. Camidge)
> 5. Re: Moving to Linux (David H)
> 6. Re: Moving to Linux (Stephen C. Camidge)
> 7. Re: Moving to Linux (D.)
> 8. Re: Moving to Linux (Alan Hopkins)
> 9. Re: Moving to Linux (David H)
> 10. Re: Moving to Linux (Jim DeLaHunt)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:29:10 -0800
> From: John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> To: "Stephen C. Camidge" <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> Cc: GNUCASH devel <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux
> Message-ID: <156DA4C6-8A4E-4CCC-8909-05F9997EAF82 at ceridwen.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>
> > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge <scamidge at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >
> > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> >
> > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> >
> > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> >
> > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
>
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
>
> I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with
> `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to
> search for path.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:47:54 -0800
> From: John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> To: Mahon Finbar <mahon.finbar at neuf.fr>
> Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Strange message on launching app
> Message-ID: <986DD69E-E6D7-417E-BC93-3A2301BF3161 at ceridwen.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> The important thing is to make sure that you don't restore an old
> version of GnuCash dlls. The most straightforward way is to leave
> executables out of the backup plan because you can always download them
> again from their respective sources. A bit less simple is to have a
> separate backup set for them so that you can easily roll back after an
> update or restore more quickly after a disk failure.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Mahon Finbar <mahon.finbar at neuf.fr> wrote:
> >
> > OK, I'll try that, thanks.
> >
> > I have the most recent version for Windows 10, afaik. Haven't recently downloaded any update and have been using the current version for a while, like since last q 2020. Could be a storage glitch, I suppose.
> >
> > Should I make a specific backup? I have backblaze for backup, but do I need to ensure files are the latest?
> >
> > Finbar
> >
> > On 12/03/2021 21:08, John Ralls wrote:
> >> You don't say what version of GnuCash, but GnuCash 4.x renamed libgncmod-app-utils.dll to libgnc-app-utils.dll, so it seems that you have some leftover bits from an earlier installation. Try uninstalling GnuCash with Apps & Settings then delete the installation directory--it defaults to C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash--before reinstalling GnuCash 4.4.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> John Ralls
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 12, 2021, at 3:20 AM, Mahon Finbar <mahon.finbar at neuf.fr> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Oops the screen grab didn't transfer -
> >>>
> >>> "the procedure entry point gmc_scm_call_1_symbol_to_string could not be located in the dll C:\programfiles(x86)\gnucash\libgncmod-app-utils.dll"
> >>>
> >>> On 12/03/2021 10:52, Mahon Finbar wrote:
> >>>> Sorry, sent this with the wrong email address.
> >>>>
> >>>> A Windows message? Using W10, no recent change with Gnucash.
> >>>>
> >>>> Needs task manager to get rid of the message.
> >>>>
> >>>> Finbar
> >>>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 14:09:49 -0500
> From: "Stephen C. Camidge" <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> To: "John Ralls" <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> Cc: "GNUCASH devel" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux
> Message-ID: <51b2e488-1e51-47e6-b0e8-00b725ea2a19 at www.fastmail.com>
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>
> Thank you very much. I will give the prefs a try!
>
> Rather than actual path I would like to do the whole drive (remove all
> files that begin with '._*')
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 1:29 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge <scamidge at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> > >
> > > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> > >
> > > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> > >
> > > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
> >
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
> >
> > I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with
> > `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to
> > search for path.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 14:42:38 -0500
> From: "Stephen C. Camidge" <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> To: "John Ralls" <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> Cc: "GNUCASH devel" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux
> Message-ID: <06108d44-88d5-4f5f-9ebb-87430bb816e5 at www.fastmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> I assumed that
>
> General Configuration data
> Gnucash 3.0 and newer: The contents of GNC_DATA_HOME and GNC_CONFIG_HOME.
>
> Linux: HOME/.gnucash - most of your preferences, adjusted report
> settings, column withs, window positions, etc.
>
> means that in HOME, I should find a directory called .gnucash but I do
> not see one?
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 1:29 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge <scamidge at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> > >
> > > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> > >
> > > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> > >
> > > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
> >
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
> >
> > I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with
> > `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to
> > search for path.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 07:05:51 +1000
> From: David H <hellvee at gmail.com>
> To: "Stephen C. Camidge" <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> Cc: John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>, GNUCASH devel
> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux
> Message-ID:
> <CA+5xQdqD4NcdD0iQcTpjO5gS2MhFCEySx1RQGf9P8gWCnNmtPQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Have you turned "Show Hidden files" on ???
>
> Cheers David H.
>
>
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 05:43, Stephen C. Camidge <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> wrote:
>
> > I assumed that
> >
> > General Configuration data
> > Gnucash 3.0 and newer: The contents of GNC_DATA_HOME and GNC_CONFIG_HOME.
> >
> > Linux: HOME/.gnucash - most of your preferences, adjusted report settings,
> > column withs, window positions, etc.
> >
> > means that in HOME, I should find a directory called .gnucash but I do not
> > see one?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 1:29 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> > > >
> > > > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> > > >
> > > > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> > > >
> > > > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile,
> > is there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
> > >
> > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
> > >
> > > I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with
> > > `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to
> > > search for path.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John Ralls
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 16:10:12 -0500
> From: "Stephen C. Camidge" <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> To: "David H" <hellvee at gmail.com>
> Cc: "John Ralls" <jralls at ceridwen.us>, "GNUCASH devel"
> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux
> Message-ID: <3d118d3f-f8fc-4630-b3e8-cfb3298d971f at www.fastmail.com>
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>
> yes
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 4:05 PM, David H wrote:
> > Have you turned "Show Hidden files" on ???
> >
> > Cheers David H.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 05:43, Stephen C. Camidge <scamidge at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >> I assumed that
> >>
> >> General Configuration data
> >> Gnucash 3.0 and newer: The contents of GNC_DATA_HOME and GNC_CONFIG_HOME.
> >>
> >> Linux: HOME/.gnucash - most of your preferences, adjusted report settings, column withs, window positions, etc.
> >>
> >> means that in HOME, I should find a directory called .gnucash but I do not see one?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 1:29 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge <scamidge at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> >> > >
> >> > > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> >> > >
> >> > > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
> >> >
> >> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
> >> >
> >> > I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with
> >> > `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to
> >> > search for path.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > John Ralls
> >> >
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 16:32:09 -0500
> From: "D." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Stephen C. Camidge" <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> Cc: David H <hellvee at gmail.com>, "D. via gnucash-user"
> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux
> Message-ID: <1a12e80e-e4f3-42e7-a6dc-da78e0d0eff1 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> When I look at
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#GNC_DATA_HOME, I
> think it says for Linux, GNC_DATA_HOME is USER_DATA_HOME/gnucash, and
> USER_DATA_HOME is $HOME/.local/share, so that should turn into
> $HOME/.local/share/gnucash
>
> A similar look at GNC_CONFIG_HOME yields $HOME/.config/gnucash
>
> At least, that's how I interpret that page. I've been spectacularly
> wrong before, though.
>
> David
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: "Stephen C. Camidge" <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> Sent: Sat Mar 13 16:10:12 EST 2021
> To: David H <hellvee at gmail.com>
> Cc: GNUCASH devel <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux
>
> yes
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 4:05 PM, David H wrote:
> > Have you turned "Show Hidden files" on ???
> >
> > Cheers David H.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 05:43, Stephen C. Camidge <scamidge at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >> I assumed that
> >>
> >> General Configuration data
> >> Gnucash 3.0 and newer: The contents of GNC_DATA_HOME and GNC_CONFIG_HOME.
> >>
> >> Linux: HOME/.gnucash - most of your preferences, adjusted report settings, column withs, window positions, etc.
> >>
> >> means that in HOME, I should find a directory called .gnucash but I do not see one?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 1:29 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge <scamidge at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> >> > >
> >> > > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> >> > >
> >> > > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
> >> >
> >> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
> >> >
> >> > I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with
> >> > `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to
> >> > search for path.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > John Ralls
> >> >
> >> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 08:35:50 +1100
> From: Alan Hopkins <hoppo52 at gmail.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux
> Message-ID:
> <CAPTS5UFgXqtwLK63rBZxZg3tSP7bjUBOmftwU1Kgi88ao-gx0w at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> This link identifies file locations
> https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/basics-migrate-settings.html
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Alan
>
> On Sat, 13 Mar. 2021, 9:16 pm Stephen C. Camidge, <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> wrote:
>
> > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> >
> > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> >
> > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> >
> > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is
> > there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Steve
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 07:44:47 +1000
> From: David H <hellvee at gmail.com>
> To: "Stephen C. Camidge" <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> Cc: John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>, GNUCASH devel
> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux
> Message-ID:
> <CA+5xQdoQNkAydoDPY7zzm7z-1LMoGESexp-YOZYBOn1ZZPOZmw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Using Flatpak version ? If so
> try /home/<USERID>/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash.
>
> Cheers David H.
>
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 07:10, Stephen C. Camidge <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> wrote:
>
> > yes
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 4:05 PM, David H wrote:
> >
> > Have you turned "Show Hidden files" on ???
> >
> > Cheers David H.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 05:43, Stephen C. Camidge <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I assumed that
> >
> > General Configuration data
> > Gnucash 3.0 and newer: The contents of GNC_DATA_HOME and GNC_CONFIG_HOME.
> >
> > Linux: HOME/.gnucash - most of your preferences, adjusted report settings,
> > column withs, window positions, etc.
> >
> > means that in HOME, I should find a directory called .gnucash but I do not
> > see one?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 1:29 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge <scamidge at fastmail.fm>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> > > >
> > > > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> > > >
> > > > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> > > >
> > > > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile,
> > is there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
> > >
> > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
> > >
> > > I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with
> > > `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to
> > > search for path.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John Ralls
> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:52:45 -0800
> From: Jim DeLaHunt <list+gnucash at jdlh.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux
> Message-ID: <cf2207e5-eeb6-a2c2-40ee-a6aff12af3bb at jdlh.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> On 2021-03-13 02:14, Stephen C. Camidge wrote:
> > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.? ?the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile?
>
> FYI, these "._*" files are metadata companions to other files in the
> same directory. If you have a file "._mybook.gnucash" (to invent an
> example), you probably have a file "mybook.gnucash" in the same directory.
>
> This pair of files recreates a capability that Mac and other filesystems
> have: to store metadata along with the data of a file. For
> introductions, see:
> /Why are dot underscore ._ files created, and how can I avoid them?/
> <https://apple.stackexchange.com/q/14980/17600
> <https://apple.stackexchange.com/q/14980/17600>>, and
> /Resource fork, //Compatibility problems/
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_fork#Compatibility_problems
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_fork#Compatibility_problems>>
> for introductions.
>
> It's probably more correct to think of your non-Mac system as creating
> these files. Did you publish your Linux file system to the Mac using
> NetATalk or Samba, and then use the Mac Finder to copy the files from
> the Mac file system to that published file system? If so, then NetATalk
> or Samba told the Mac it supported storing metadata, when the underlying
> Linux file system did not have a way of storing metadata. Thus perhaps
> NetATalk or Samba created these "._*" files as a workaround for storing
> the file metadata.
>
> My understanding is that Linux file systems can actually store file
> metadata in the form of "extended attributes". But also, I believe that
> most Linux apps don't use file metadata. Thus you might be safe to
> delete all the ._* files. Other replies in this thread, and the
> Apple.Stackexchange.com article above, have offered ways to delete the
> files if you don't want them.
>
> Best regards,
> ???? ?Jim DeLaHunt
>
>
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