[GNC] Build 4.8 docs issue

A Harvey gah1178 at gmail.com
Sun Oct 3 02:07:26 EDT 2021


John,
Big difference, to me at least.  I don't know the correct terminology or
internal details, but I can tell you what happens if one tries to read a
MOBI or PDF format.
With MOBI, the Kindle will reflow text to fit the screen.  For example, if
I use a font size such that 10 words of a page fit on the first line of the
screen, the 11th word displays at the beginning of the next line.  Change
the font size and the device adjusts the number of words on each line to
fit so that the screen is always filled with text and nothing is cut off at
the edges.
PDF specifies exactly where every letter, or other mark, appears on a
page.  The Kindle displays an entire page at a time on the screen. If the
document was created for an 8.5" by11" page size, then the text is very
puny on the display.  One can zoom in on a section of the page, but the
person reading must constantly drag the image around since only part of a
line fits on the screen when zoomed.  If the PDF was generated to fit on a
Kindle, 3.5" by 4.75", then it would be okay. Not the normal case.
I don't know whether my explanation was clear, but the short answer is that
reading a PDF on a Kindle is not fun, while MOBI is comfortable.
-Arthur


On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 12:32 AM john <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:

> Interesting, thanks.
>
> Do you know if there's a discernible difference between how a Kindle
> displays a PDF and a MOBI?
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 7:55 PM, A Harvey <gah1178 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just a nit.  I don't think Kindle devices support ePub, at least not in
> recent models.  I'm not sure whether the apps they have for PCs and
> phones.  I have a book in LPR format (whatever that is) that works on
> Kindle for PC and Phone but not Kindle devices.
> From the Amazon site:
> Content Formats Supported
> Kindle Format 8 (AZW3), Kindle (AZW), TXT, PDF, unprotected MOBI, PRC
> natively; HTML DOC, DOCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, PMP through conversion; Audible
> audio format (AAX).
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 6:07 PM john <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
>
>> It hasn't been a while since I last built mobi-formatted documents with
>> Cmake because I do so with every release and we just did one on Tuesday. It
>> works fine.
>> *However* the mobi format was a proprietary format devised by Amazon.com
>> <http://amazon.com/> for their Kindle-branded readers that they
>> deprecated in 2019. We're planning to remove it from the build system soon.
>> You should be able to load the ePub documents into your Kindle.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>> > On Oct 2, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Geert Janssens <geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Please remember to send replies to the list rather than individual
>> users.
>> > Particularly if you are soliciting for answers from "anyone" ;)
>> >
>> > As to your problems, can you provide more details ?
>> >
>> > It's been a while since I tested  the mobi format. Back then it worked
>> fine,
>> > also with cmake. You have to enable it explicitly though by passing
>> > '-DWITH_MOBI=ON' to the cmake call.
>> >
>> > I wouldn't spend too much effort on it though. We're currently
>> considering to
>> > drop that format. It has been abandoned by Amazon as well.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Geert
>> >
>> > Op zaterdag 2 oktober 2021 19:40:30 CEST schreef Giuseppe Foti:
>> >> I am fighting with it too, trying to create a gentoo ebuild for it.
>> >>
>> >> At now I can build, html and epub.
>> >>
>> >> With pdf I have a sandbox access violation issue,
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone confirm that "mobi" can be built both for "help" and
>> "guide" ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Il 02/10/21 18:51, Geert Janssens ha scritto:
>> >>
>> >> Op zaterdag 2 oktober 2021 18:14:02 CEST schreef Mike Commissaris:
>> >>
>> >> Installing past versions of docs (ver 4.4) went smoothly.
>> >> With ver 4.8 docs build, starting the install from my script file ./
>> >> gnucash-docs-4.8.sh
>> >> I get an error at line 11: ./configure: No such file or directory
>> >> Sure enough, there is no configure script file in my 4.8 docs build
>> >> directory.
>> >> I have searched for answers but have not figured out how to build docs
>> in
>> >> ver 4.8.
>> >> Any suggestions or pointer to documentation?
>> >>
>> >> The autotools based build system for gnucash-docs has been deprecated
>> in
>> >> favor of the cmake based build system.
>> >>
>> >> In gnucash-docs 4.8, the bits to use autotools have been fully removed.
>> >>
>> >> The new way of building is summarized as follows:
>> >>
>> >> - create a build directory (eg 'build') next to your source directory
>> >> - cd build
>> >> - cmake ../<source-dir>
>> >> - make
>> >>
>> >> If you used to set an installation prefix while running configure you
>> may
>> >> want do to the equivalent for your cmake run.
>> >> The syntax is "-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=<path-to-install>"
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Geert
>> >>
>> >>
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