[GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 223, Issue 26

Scott Brooksby brooksby1 at aol.com
Sat Oct 9 12:32:50 EDT 2021


 I have been downloading my transactions from Citibank. I click on the download section and then select XSport on the right hand side of the Citibank section. I then select ofx and then click export. This downloads the statement for that period. I've been go to gnucash and click on import, then import ofx / qfx. And bring this up the file to process dialogue and I double click on the statement that I just downloaded. It brings up a list of the transactions on that statement. I can then double-click on each one and a sign the appropriate expense account or other a location for that particular charge. Once everything is set 4 all of the items I've been click okay edit populates the account. The very first time you do this it will actually ask you which account this populates into. I have not yet gotten around to figuring out how to use online connections, but this seems to work for me for now.
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Today's Topics:

  1. Re:  email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.
      (Stan Brown)
  2. Re:  email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.
      (Nate Bargmann)
  3. Re:  Billing Terms Editor not "sticky" (Benjamin Soffer)
  4.  Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6 still..)
      (Doug)
  5.  OFX - Citi Setup Trouble (Steve Welch)
  6. Re:  Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6
      still..) (Alan Hopkins)
  7. Re:  email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.
      (Chris Green)
  8. Re:  Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6
      still..) (Doug)
  9.  Split Transaction Confusion Again (Jack Frillman)
  10. Re:  Split Transaction Confusion Again (Gyle McCollam)
  11. Re:  Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6
      still..) (Maf. King)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 10:42:39 -0700
From: Stan Brown <the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.
Message-ID: <9e021891-ea92-29ff-6049-9a3459e9c3c5 at fastmail.fm>
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On 2021-10-08 01:16, Gerrit Holl wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 21:42, Jim DeLaHunt <list+gnucash at jdlh.com> wrote:
> 
>> I predict that we could have a big discussion about the pros and cons of
>> email lists and forums, and we would end up without a resolution; we
>> would discover that no one option works for everyone.
> 
> For what it's worth, there are also ~280 questions on gnucash on
> money.stackexchange.com, a site run by a commercial company (best
> known for Stack Overflow) but with user contributions licensed
> CC-BY-SA.  https://money.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/gnucash
> 
> The Q&A form in general and stackexchange specifically have their own
> pros and cons compared to forums or email; in my opinion, all three
> are complementary (as is chat).

I have a lot of respect for StackExchange. Their system seems to result
in incorrect answers getting corrected fairly quickly. Quite often when
I google a technical question a StackExchange is near the top of results,
and it's nearly always helpful.

-- 
Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
https://OakRoadSystems.com


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 08:16:10 -0500
From: Nate Bargmann <n0nb at n0nb.us>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.
Message-ID: <20211008131610.7t36mlhuozoowwn5 at n0nb.us>
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* On 2021 08 Oct 06:43 -0500, Robert Heller wrote:
 
> There is also GigiNews (US$4.99/month).

I found https://www.aioe.org/ some years ago which gives access to text
newsgroups and which I've used without issue, though I post very little.

Toward the OP, one nice thing about email and mailing lists such as this
is that the messages are often archived in multiple places.  Web forum
software is often not and depends on there being good backups in place
for disaster recovery.  I have seen Web forums disappear over the years
and all the content with them so I regard them as less trustworthy and
quite ephemeral and ill suited for technical/user discussions where
access to archives years later is useful.

- Nate

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 21:43:46 +0000
From: Benjamin Soffer <bsoffer at soffer-law.com>
To: "john.layman at laymanandlayman.com"
    <john.layman at laymanandlayman.com>, "gnucash-user at gnucash.org"
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Subject: Re: [GNC] Billing Terms Editor not "sticky"
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Yes, you would think that's how it would work.  But, in fact, it does now.  When I post the invoice, it ignores the entry in the Billing Terms table.

Benjamin E. Soffer | THE SOFFER LAW FIRM PC
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Layman [mailto:john.layman at laymanandlayman.com] 
Sent: 10/04/2021 11:55 AM
To: Benjamin Soffer <bsoffer at soffer-law.com>; gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: RE: [GNC] Billing Terms Editor not "sticky"

The Billing Terms Editor merely allows you to maintain a table of differing terms.  When an invoice is posted, the applicable terms are those specified in the Customer (or Vendor) record, which refers to an entry in the Billing Terms table.

-----Original Message-----
From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+john.layman=ieee.org at gnucash.org>
On Behalf Of Benjamin Soffer
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 1:10 PM
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Billing Terms Editor not "sticky"

Hello,

I am using version 3.8 for Windows.

When I set the invoice "due" period in the Billing Terms Editor (for example
15 days), the system does not "remember" this setting when I post a new invoice.  The due date remains the same as the post date, by default.  Any suggestions?

Ben
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 10:25:20 +1100
From: Doug <lemans4 at internode.on.net>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6
    still..)
Message-ID: <20211009102520.5cda8ca5 at internode.on.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Hi,
 has anyone changed the default accounting period in the reports window?
 Currently they are set to 1 Jan to 31 Dec. Australian Tax year is 1 July to 30 June.

 I know I can set them report by report, but it would be nice to change the defaults.

 I am currently using ver 4,6 on Linux (PCLinuxOS, which I have been using for years & love!)

regards, Doug (Long time Gnucash user & appreciator!)

-- 


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 20:57:35 -0400
From: Steve Welch <steve.welch.1 at icloud.com>
To: Gnucash-User <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: [GNC] OFX - Citi Setup Trouble
Message-ID: <68AE9640-7D9F-4028-8AD9-5B2B723E1380 at icloud.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8

Firstly, thanks to those who have offered advice already.  I am still trying to get my Citi credit card transactions to download and having no success.
I have tried what is in the Wiki, plus Colin?s suggestions and those posted previously by Nicholas Rood.  When I request the account list from within the wizard, this is the log I get:

20:41:41 Sending request...
20:41:41 Using GnuTLS default ciphers.
20:41:41 TLS: SSL-Ciphers negotiated: TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES-256-GCM:AEAD
20:41:41 Waiting for response...
20:41:41 Parsing response...
20:41:41 Status for signon request: General error (Code 2000, severity "ERROR")
Error other than those specified by the remaining error codes. (Note: Servers should provide a more specific error whenever possible. Error code 2000 should be reserved for cases in which a more specific code is not available.)
20:41:41 Status for account info request: General error (Code 2000, severity "ERROR")
Error other than those specified by the remaining error codes. (Note: Servers should provide a more specific error whenever possible. Error code 2000 should be reserved for cases in which a more specific code is not available.)
20:41:41 Received account (no bank code)/(no account number) ((no bank name)/(no account name))
20:41:41 Operation finished, you can now close this window.

I have checked and double checked the various fields but can find no typos, etc.
I am really at an impasse and about to give up.  Because we use our credit card for most transactions, not having a simple, seamless download is a dealbreaker for our financial software.  

Any further ideas would be most welcome.

Steve

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 13:32:07 +1100
From: Alan Hopkins <hoppo52 at gmail.com>
To: Doug <lemans4 at internode.on.net>
Cc: GnuCash users group <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6
    still..)
Message-ID: <8834c055-8958-b131-030a-a28fdc96a511 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

  Hi Doug
  Nice to hear from another Aussie PCLOS & GNUCash user!
  I have the same version of GNC as you (as that's what is in the repo!)
  - I haven't been using GNC for long but I set the accounting period in
  the Preferences as Absolute to 1st July 20 to 30 Jun 21 (ie last fin
  year) and it defaults the reports (Beginning & End of Accounting
  Period) to the correct dates.  I will need to change that for this fin.
  year (and those that follow) as it is an absolute setting but I don't
  see that as problem.
  Another alternative would be to set the dates in the Report Options and
  then save that report configuration so when you use it the report has
  the default settings you want.
  But I guess you know all the above being a long-time GNC user!
  My thanks to the GNUCash gurus, facilitators & fixers - GNC is a
  terrific resource!!
  Cheers
  Hop

  On 9/10/21 10:25, Doug wrote:

Hi,
 has anyone changed the default accounting period in the reports window?
 Currently they are set to 1 Jan to 31 Dec. Australian Tax year is 1 July to 30
June.

 I know I can set them report by report, but it would be nice to change the defa
ults.

 I am currently using ver 4,6 on Linux (PCLinuxOS, which I have been using for y
ears & love!)

regards, Doug (Long time Gnucash user & appreciator!)


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 08:36:51 +0100
From: Chris Green <cl at isbd.net>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.
Message-ID: <YWFGk0C+Dd6w0FIm at esprimo>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Thu, Oct 07, 2021 at 07:39:20PM -0400, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:
> 
> > Of course there's Usenet, which doesn't require everyone to connect to
> 
> Usenet is still active?
> I though it died years ago.
> 
That would be my favourite way to communicate.

I'm still active on several Usenet newsgroups, one of the best and
most active is uk.d-i-y.

-- 
Chris Green


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 23:37:22 +1100
From: Doug <lemans4 at internode.on.net>
To: Alan Hopkins <hoppo52 at gmail.com>
Cc: GnuCash users group <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6
    still..)
Message-ID: <20211009233722.1235fc3f at internode.on.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Thanks Alan. Yes, knew that. I am certainly no accountant, but manage to bumble along.

 I think it might be possible to set the defaults in the setup file, but honestly have not looked. 
What I would like is to be able to define the Financial Year start/Financial Year end in setup so
 it always defaults to the current financial year ()which in Australia?s case is 1 July to 30 June).

 I wonder how many other countries have non-Calendar year Financial years? I guess the UK might copy us 
seeing we seem to copy their laws in our early days.

regards, Doug 


n Sat, 9 Oct 2021 13:32:07 +1100
Alan Hopkins <hoppo52 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Doug
> 
> Nice to hear from another Aussie PCLOS & GNUCash user!
> 
> I have the same version of GNC as you (as that's what is in the repo!) - I haven't been using GNC for long but I set the accounting period in the Preferences as Absolute to 1st July 20 to 30 Jun 21 (ie last fin year) and it defaults the reports (Beginning & End of Accounting Period) to the correct dates.? I will need to change that for this fin. year (and those that follow) as it is an absolute setting but I don't see that as problem.
> 
> Another alternative would be to set the dates in the Report Options and then save that report configuration so when you use it the report has the default settings you want.
> 
> But I guess you know all the above being a long-time GNC user!
> 
> My thanks to the GNUCash gurus, facilitators & fixers - GNC is a terrific resource!!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Hop
> 
> On 9/10/21 10:25, Doug wrote:
> Hi,
> >  has anyone changed the default accounting period in the reports window?
> >  Currently they are set to 1 Jan to 31 Dec. Australian Tax year is 1 July to 30 June.
> > 
> >  I know I can set them report by report, but it would be nice to change the defaults.
> > 
> >  I am currently using ver 4,6 on Linux (PCLinuxOS, which I have been using for years & love!)
> > 
> > regards, Doug (Long time Gnucash user & appreciator!)
> > 
> > 
> 


-- 


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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 09:51:02 -0400
From: Jack Frillman <jcf_m_lists at me.com>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Split Transaction Confusion Again
Message-ID: <fc3e6d99-08ef-fbe2-f74e-996c8afdf069 at me.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


I'm having trouble entering a split transaction for a stock dividend & 
the tax that was withheld.

The stock has a dividend of?? $10.13
Tax withheld is?? $1.52
This leaves a cash deposit of $8.61 in the parent brokerage account.

How do I enter a split transaction that shows the dividend of $10.13, 
puts the tax of $1.52 into a tax tracking account and adds $8.61 to the 
cash balance in the parent brokerage account?

As with a straight dividend I'm entering the main transaction in the 
parent brokerage account.

No matter which way I try making these entry's I always have an amount 
added to the imbalance account or the $10.13 added to the cash balance.
I have read GNU Cash Documentation on split transactions several times 
and I still can't figure this out.

Thanks.


-- 
Old Unix programmers never die, they just mv to /dev/null
- Anonymous



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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 14:23:42 +0000
From: Gyle McCollam <gmccollam at live.com>
To: Jack Frillman <jcf_m_lists at me.com>
Cc: "gnucash-user at gnucash.org" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Split Transaction Confusion Again
Message-ID:
    <BLAPR06MB6802A6EFBA4827156588DA0BCAB39 at BLAPR06MB6802.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

This would be your entry:

Parent Brokerage Account                $8.61
Tax Account                                      $1.52
Dividend Income Account                                  $10.63

Hope this helps you and is clear.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326                    Mobile

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________________________________
From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail.com at gnucash.org> on behalf of Jack Frillman via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 9:51 AM
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: [GNC] Split Transaction Confusion Again


I'm having trouble entering a split transaction for a stock dividend &
the tax that was withheld.

The stock has a dividend of  $10.13
Tax withheld is  $1.52
This leaves a cash deposit of $8.61 in the parent brokerage account.

How do I enter a split transaction that shows the dividend of $10.13,
puts the tax of $1.52 into a tax tracking account and adds $8.61 to the
cash balance in the parent brokerage account?

As with a straight dividend I'm entering the main transaction in the
parent brokerage account.

No matter which way I try making these entry's I always have an amount
added to the imbalance account or the $10.13 added to the cash balance.
I have read GNU Cash Documentation on split transactions several times
and I still can't figure this out.

Thanks.


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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2021 15:23:46 +0100
From: "Maf. King" <maf at chilwell.net>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Default Accounting period permanent change (Ver 4.6
    still..)
Message-ID: <37133679.J2Yia2DhmK at janus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Nothing so simple in the UK.... the HMRC annual period ends on 5th April each 
year...  

Not the most obvious date, I know. AIUI, It is all to to with a legacy from 
the Roman Empire, with Popes and Kings who thought they were more in charge in 
the year 15-so and so.  (or maybe 13-so and so)

Maf.



On Saturday, 9 October 2021 13:37:22 BST Doug wrote:
> Thanks Alan. Yes, knew that. I am certainly no accountant, but manage to
> bumble along.
> 
>  I think it might be possible to set the defaults in the setup file, but
> honestly have not looked. What I would like is to be able to define the
> Financial Year start/Financial Year end in setup so it always defaults to
> the current financial year ()which in Australia?s case is 1 July to 30
> June).
> 
>  I wonder how many other countries have non-Calendar year Financial years? I
> guess the UK might copy us seeing we seem to copy their laws in our early
> days.
> 
> regards, Doug
> 
> 
> n Sat, 9 Oct 2021 13:32:07 +1100
> 
> Alan Hopkins <hoppo52 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Doug
> > 
> > Nice to hear from another Aussie PCLOS & GNUCash user!
> > 
> > I have the same version of GNC as you (as that's what is in the repo!) - I
> > haven't been using GNC for long but I set the accounting period in the
> > Preferences as Absolute to 1st July 20 to 30 Jun 21 (ie last fin year)
> > and it defaults the reports (Beginning & End of Accounting Period) to the
> > correct dates.  I will need to change that for this fin. year (and those
> > that follow) as it is an absolute setting but I don't see that as
> > problem.
> > 
> > Another alternative would be to set the dates in the Report Options and
> > then save that report configuration so when you use it the report has the
> > default settings you want.
> > 
> > But I guess you know all the above being a long-time GNC user!
> > 
> > My thanks to the GNUCash gurus, facilitators & fixers - GNC is a terrific
> > resource!!
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Hop
> > 
> > On 9/10/21 10:25, Doug wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > >  has anyone changed the default accounting period in the reports window?
> > >  Currently they are set to 1 Jan to 31 Dec. Australian Tax year is 1
> > >  July to 30 June.
> > >  
> > >  I know I can set them report by report, but it would be nice to change
> > >  the defaults.
> > >  
> > >  I am currently using ver 4,6 on Linux (PCLinuxOS, which I have been
> > >  using for years & love!)> > 
> > > regards, Doug (Long time Gnucash user & appreciator!)






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